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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:36 pm 
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just a little something. I was bored. :P

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Seems like finished art to me- that belongs in the Ye Olde PPT Gallery, so I'll be moving it there.

On a second note, very nice work there. :)


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VEry nice.... reminds me more of a RAven than a crow.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:09 pm 
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I like it, the feather texture is interesting and I like the shading on the branch. I just think you should probably erase or computer edit the smudges around the bird. Other than that, I like it a lot. Did you use charcoal pencil? :)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:54 pm 
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Willow charcoal on paper.

And it is a raven, I just gave it a stupid file name.

And I kinda like the smudges. :P


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If the smudges weren't concentrated around the bird (I assume they're hand smudges) and they were pushed into the background to form more of a sky/depth background thing, they'd be great smudges.
But... otherwise.
I think this is really well modeled, Frankly I don't think i've ever seen a charcoal drawing here on PPT before (not in my recent memory at least). Really nice drawing overall.
You're going to enter it in PPTAC right? *pokes* You know you want too...


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what's a PPTAC? o_O


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http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15842

PPT Art Contest.

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Why? It won't win. People only like computer-generated art these days. The prizes will go to photoshoppers.


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TelegramSam wrote:
Why? It won't win. People only like computer-generated art these days. The prizes will go to photoshoppers.


A) I can tell you that photoshoppers don't always win. TRUST ME. I judge it.

B) I am not telling you that you'll win, but you never know. I take a lot of things into consideration when I judge. Don't put yourself down.

C) I've just wrapped up my second year in my BFA, I don't work with computer generated art. I do strictly real media work. I understand what goes into it. Don't sell yourself short. It's up to you if you enter, and it's all in good fun. *shrug*


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Funny, when I started at the University of Georgia here, I wanted to get into the art school and major in graphic design. I took a drawing class and a color/comp class and both instructors told me I was very talented.

I did their portfolio review twice and got rejected both times. I was never told why, though I have my theories (the main one being that the woman who ran the school didn't like me because I said I didn't like modern art).

Very little about art these days has anything to do with actual talent, and that's all I'm going to say on the matter. After hearing the constant complaints from some of my friends who did get in, I'm now quite glad that I didn't get in and switched to Geology instead. I'll have my B.S. a year from now if everything goes according to plan, and will have had to put up with a lot less "BS" to get it.

Besides, I doubt you'd give the 40 grand to a five-minute sketch in any event. I'd hope you wouldn't.


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TelegramSam wrote:

Very little about art these days has anything to do with actual talent, and that's all I'm going to say on the matter. After hearing the constant complaints from some of my friends who did get in, I'm now quite glad that I didn't get in and switched to Geology instead. I'll have my B.S. a year from now if everything goes according to plan, and will have had to put up with a lot less "BS" to get it.

Besides, I doubt you'd give the 40 grand to a five-minute sketch in any event. I'd hope you wouldn't.


Excuse me?
I don't know what schools you're going to, but the school i'm going too has just spent two years teaching me nothing but technique which equates into talent. The school i'm going to involves talent and technique.
I don't know what you really think about art now adays, but i've just spent two years with some of the hardest working students i've ever seen. Very talented, technically skilled students.

This was a friendly suggestion. I'm just trying to get more entries, everything here is meant for fun. I'm sorry you feel the need to become defensive about this. Not every person who enters is going to win, but it's nice to see diversity. If you wish to continue this discussion, i'd be more then happy to via PM. But I do not feel it wise to continue to do so in this thread.


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Very little about art these days has anything to do with actual talent, and that's all I'm going to say on the matter.


I don't pretend to know anything about art beyond what I've been tought in high school, or what I can do. But I believe that if you put your energy into creating something, than thats talent enough. You think that simply having the skill to create something that looks very good makes you talented. I think that being able to create something in the first place, even if it doesn't look all that good is talent. Having the creativity. Anyone can learn techniques, you can't learn imagination - thats talent.


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