The Curse of the Edwards (Brits very welcome)
Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:44 pm
From what I know about English history, one thing really puzzles me - why on earth did the kings keep naming their sons Edward?
I mean, Edward I was, well, a definite English namesake, but it all went downhill from there.
-Edward II, who sucked at all military strategy, who had every other ruling body in England declare him incompetent, and whose wife plotted against him to his death (wheeee historical accuracy!)
-Edward III, who lost an unbelievable amount of ground against the French and whose son, also Edward, died in same war
-Edward IV, who... eh, had a damned good reign, actually
-Edward V, murdered in the Bloody Tower at age thirteen
-Edward VI, who died of some incapacitating illness at age sixteen, before he could rule on his own, and is rumored poisoned by his regent
-Edward VII, who had a long, prosperous reign but was unspeakably boring
-Edward VIII, who stepped down in the face of marital scandal
So why all the Edwards? Was it one of the three Saxon Edwards, about whom I know nothing, or were English monarchs just big on cursing their offspring?
I mean, Edward I was, well, a definite English namesake, but it all went downhill from there.
-Edward II, who sucked at all military strategy, who had every other ruling body in England declare him incompetent, and whose wife plotted against him to his death (wheeee historical accuracy!)
-Edward III, who lost an unbelievable amount of ground against the French and whose son, also Edward, died in same war
-Edward IV, who... eh, had a damned good reign, actually
-Edward V, murdered in the Bloody Tower at age thirteen
-Edward VI, who died of some incapacitating illness at age sixteen, before he could rule on his own, and is rumored poisoned by his regent
-Edward VII, who had a long, prosperous reign but was unspeakably boring
-Edward VIII, who stepped down in the face of marital scandal
So why all the Edwards? Was it one of the three Saxon Edwards, about whom I know nothing, or were English monarchs just big on cursing their offspring?
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:25 pm
Actually I just learned... alot from this I didn't know anything about that... I don't do History since 2 years ago! Hmm It's seems that our king edwards have been... somewhat... unlucky...
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:34 pm
*shrug* Maybe the monarchs didn't think of all the bad luck... or simply loved the name. XD Either way, I hope the Edwards (from now on) won't have bad luck.
Or maybe they liked cursing their kids. O_o
Or maybe they liked cursing their kids. O_o
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:36 pm
Because "Eduardo" is a Spanish name only?
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:42 pm
I thing they're cursing them MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA 
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Ok I'l calm down...
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Ok I'l calm down...
Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:28 pm
I don't think the term "variety" meant anything in those days 
And I'm glad I'm not an Edward. They seem to have so much bad luck. Plus, I'm a girl so I really don't want the name Edward
And I'm glad I'm not an Edward. They seem to have so much bad luck. Plus, I'm a girl so I really don't want the name Edward
Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:34 pm
Pfft... check out the Georges and Henrys.
Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:58 am
The only thing is most of our kings, ecpecially our most famous, Henry VIII, were either not very nice, boring or just didn't live very long...
Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:12 am
Wow, Edward VII was 'unspeakable boring'. Geez, that name is DOOMED.
Our monarchs tend to have a small range of names.
They also tend to be crap, a lot of them. Not just Edwards.
As for marital scandal, Edward VIII abdicated the throne because he was in love with, and wanted to marry, a previously divorced woman, which was frowned upon.
Our monarchs tend to have a small range of names.
They also tend to be crap, a lot of them. Not just Edwards.
As for marital scandal, Edward VIII abdicated the throne because he was in love with, and wanted to marry, a previously divorced woman, which was frowned upon.
Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:08 am
...does the royal family know this!? They'd probaby learn after the first 4 thousand of them. 
I had no idea that there was all this bad luck with that! Heck, I didn't even know that there were kings named Edward!
I had no idea that there was all this bad luck with that! Heck, I didn't even know that there were kings named Edward!
Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:50 pm
Twinkle wrote:Pfft... check out the Georges and Henrys.
Yeah, the Henrys puzzle me even more, really, as there wasn't a really good Henry until Henry VII. You've a point.
EDIT: "Unspeakably boring" was a joke about the fact that I couldn't read his history without getting that Wilbert Slinkhard fatigue, and so I only got the vaguest gist of his reign.
Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:07 pm
The Richerds didn't have a good time either I mean Richerd the Lionheart went to try and retake the holy city of Jeruselum and came so close twice but still failed and while he was doing this back home in England his brother was overthrowing him...
Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:53 pm
or if you look at the french kings- they started out doing well and then it started going way down hill (louis and napoleon, for example)
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:51 pm
Actually Napolean wasn't a king he just won a few wars then declared himself a king
Then he was exiled to an Island where he died of cancer...
Then he was exiled to an Island where he died of cancer...
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:57 pm
Tharkun wrote:Twinkle wrote:Pfft... check out the Georges and Henrys.
Yeah, the Henrys puzzle me even more, really, as there wasn't a really good Henry until Henry VII. You've a point.
Hurrah for that spineless weed. Heh. Not a weed, but a tad spineless, yes.
Richards didn't have a good time, true- Richard III actually quite a good King but Shakespeare made him out to be a loathesome hunchback.
Look. English Kings have been a bit dodgy, and some alright. Like most royal families. They don't use a large variety of names within the royals. There's nothing weird at all.