Kennedy and Lincoln.. too much of a co-incidence?

[Shoyru_Lover]

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.
Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a
warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a
theater.

Booth and Oswald were both assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland A week before
Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

[Twisted Sanity]

All a coincidence I swear.

Okay, don't let me delve into the evils of politics. Otherwise this thread will be put on the debating board

[Paul]

Whether or not Oswald shot JFK could be up to debate.

[Anubis]

-shudder- That's a really big coincidence, if it is one.

[_jade_em_]

Also:

Kennedy's secretary, whose name was Lincoln, advised him not to go to Dallas, where he was shot. Lincolns secretary, whose name was Kennedy, advised him not to go to the theater, where he was shot.

[VeraX]

Argh, I knew of cooincidences but not quite that much.

[meowth1982]

If there's ever a time to believe in reincarnation it'd be with that haha.

[Stijn]

Ohh, conspiracy theorists.

[Asthaloth]

Conspiracy theorists are so much fun
suprised noone said that it was the Nazi lizardmen living at the centre of the earth who conspired with the illuminati to undermine the power of the stonecutters or somthing.

or that all revolutions have occured on a Wednesday (they have as it happens, noone knows why, i personally reckon Wednesday is the midweek point where everyone is totally fed up with life, the universe and everything and so stage a revolt to throw some fun into the mix)

The only thing you need to worry about is if some nutter like me gains power.
but that is highly unlikely to occure, as we narcisists are self-defeating.

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[Caesara]

My teacher has a poster with that stuff up in her classroom; it's kind of freaky.

[Amethyst]

Wow. THAT is weird.

-hides from evil coincidences-

[VeraX]

Lincoln was shot in a movie theatre, and while his assasin was escaping, he shot a police officer. While Kenedy's assasin was escaping, he shot a cop in a movie theatre.

Note: Kennedy's assasin didn't shoot the cop. The cop was moving towards Oswald, and Oswald tried to shoot him, but Officer Tippit held the gun in such a way that the chamber wouldn't revolve so there was no bullet to fire. But Oswald tried to shoot the cop.

[dood]

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
This particular fact is true. But is a minor coincidence compared to the fact that none of their failed attempts were 100 years apart and their election to senate dates were different.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
There's only an election every 4 years! Plus, Kennedy was killed in his first term whereas Lincoln was killed in his second...
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
This, again, is incredibly minor. Pretty much everyone who's been elected president will have been 'particularly concerned about murder'.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Well, Lincolns 4 year old son died of tuberculosis whilst Kennedy's wife had a premature birth causing her son to die almost immedietly...
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
The chance of both people being shot on the same day is 1/7. Plus, they were both shot after public meetings, which only take place over the weekend. Which gives them pretty much a 1/3 chance of being shot on the same day.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
This is so unbelievably stupid...Of course they were both shot in the head! They were both seated and the assassins wanted to kill them, where else would they shoot?
Now it gets really weird.
Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
This is plain wrong. Lincolns secretaries were named Hay and Nicolay
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.
Evelyn Lincoln, yes. This is true but hardly amazing...
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Once again, this is wrong. John Booth was born in Maryland. He was a northerner.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Like Johnson's an uncommon name?
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
You could argue that all the presidents have been 50-70 and thus it's not strange really.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Once again, this is just plain wrong. Booth was born in 1838.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Hmm, dubious. People just called Lee Oswold Lee Oswold before the assassination. It was only afterwards that people said all his three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Again just a coincidence. Their first names don't have the same number. Nor do their middle or family names.

Now hang on to your seat.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'
Kennedy's car was called 'Jade', not Lincoln The fact it's made by ford and the theater's called ford is pretty obscure...
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a
warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a
theater.
very loose connection made using word-play.
Oswold shot from a big building warehouse and ran to a cinema.
Booth shot from a theater and ran to a barn...

Booth and Oswald were both assassinated before their trials.
well, Booth was in a burning barn and was shot to be put out of his misery.
Oswald was gunned down by an enraged citizen, Jack Ruby.
Again, quite different...
And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Monroe died a year before Kennedy was shot so this one's just been made up...

[Trick]

Obviously you can take any one fact and go "oh the probability here isn't that high" etc, it's when all of them are put together that it gets interesting. Even if a couple have errors it's still one hell of a coincidence and is indeed rather spooky.

I think it's obvious that it's meant to be taken all together rather than saying "oh, all presidents are 50 to 70 so it's not strange that their successors were born exactly 100 years apart".

...even though it is Kinda misses the point if you go through fact by fact rather than looking at the whole picture.

[Igg]

And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland A week before
Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

It's a shame that's not true.