Digital life equals ultimate happiness
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:32 pm
Gouryella has made a shot video of its hopes for the future.
http://www.gouryella.com/index_ie.html
If this is what is in store for the years to come... count me out.
http://www.gouryella.com/index_ie.html
If this is what is in store for the years to come... count me out.
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:37 pm
Those bugs could be used for not right purposes. And was it just me or was there lightsaber sounds at about 2:05 through the video?
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:57 pm
Uhh.. ummm... uhhh... I'm scared.. for like.. society... Really. That is weird and wrong. Why would you do that? How could you tell the difference between real people and the robot things? How would they function in a world of real people? Why plants too? How does digital life create ULTIMATE HAPPINESS? What kind of question is,"are we machines ourselves"?! GAH.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:45 am
Wow, that's pretty scary.
But, not unrealistic. There is going to be a time, and probably not all that far away where things like this do happen. They've already got the extremely human-like robot, where else is their to go?
But, not unrealistic. There is going to be a time, and probably not all that far away where things like this do happen. They've already got the extremely human-like robot, where else is their to go?
Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:47 am
Those people obviously have never seen I, Robot.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:49 am
Bangel wrote:Those people obviously have never seen I, Robot.
Yeah, but in I Robot- they well... looked like Robots.
This is even worse.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:58 am
Aye. That is...very frightening. Robot fish? Real fish scare me enough as it is.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:56 am
Uhm. This confuses me.
Digital life cannot equal ultimate happiness, because robots are a bunch of circuits and programming. They cannot feel happy :/
Digital life cannot equal ultimate happiness, because robots are a bunch of circuits and programming. They cannot feel happy :/
Re: Digital life equals ultimate happiness
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:28 am
I doubt that any of this will happen in the near future (about 70 or so years), because when '2001: A Space Odyssey' came out, everyone was predicting what the future would be and what the space stations would look like in 2001. The Station V from the movie is 300m in diameter, while the ISS is only 80m long. So, this probably won't be coming for awhile.
Although, I do think it's stupid to have robotic plants. What's the point, other than the fact that they could integrate oxygen-producing machines into robotic trees.
Although, I do think it's stupid to have robotic plants. What's the point, other than the fact that they could integrate oxygen-producing machines into robotic trees.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:06 am
We are coming upon a day and age when virtual reality will render actual reality obsolete. Think of it: already we have people who are completely immersed in their online gaming lives. Imagine a place where you can don a helmet of some sort and be transported to a world where you can be whomever you want to be, fight heroic battles, go on adventures, and live out all of your fantasies. As soon as that helmet comes off, you're overweight, middle aged Joe Shmoe with a crappy job and a nagging wife you'd rather ignore.
Which would you choose? Frankly, for an alarmingly growing bunch, digital life IS better than actual life. Many people have already chosen life on a screen over real life. Imagine when that screen turns into a virtual world that your brain perceives to be as real as this one? All of your daydreams are at your fingertips: Want to fly? You can fly. Want to go to Venice? It's a click away. Everything you could possibly want is at your fingertips.
In case you haven't noticed, there are a whole bunch of people who would forgo this hum-drum life for one of fufilled dreams if they were given the chance. Scary thought, isn't it? Our very world becoming obsolete.
Which would you choose? Frankly, for an alarmingly growing bunch, digital life IS better than actual life. Many people have already chosen life on a screen over real life. Imagine when that screen turns into a virtual world that your brain perceives to be as real as this one? All of your daydreams are at your fingertips: Want to fly? You can fly. Want to go to Venice? It's a click away. Everything you could possibly want is at your fingertips.
In case you haven't noticed, there are a whole bunch of people who would forgo this hum-drum life for one of fufilled dreams if they were given the chance. Scary thought, isn't it? Our very world becoming obsolete.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:24 am
_jade_em_ wrote:Uhm. This confuses me.
Digital life cannot equal ultimate happiness, because robots are a bunch of circuits and programming. They cannot feel happy :/
There's a slightly deeper issue here: what does feeling happy imply? Humans are just a bunch of [neural] tissues and programmed reactions to stimuli (reflexes, endocrine responses, neural activity). Quite comparable to a robot's curcuits and programming, really.
In a more futuristic world, it'd be no problem to conditionally program a robot to be happy if a certain condition is met -- the robot would think it was happy, and some humans would be less than convinced.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:21 am
I dunno if it's fair to compare robot 'happiness' to human happiness. Then again, maybe it is.
I dunno. It depends on what the creators of the robots wish to have. If you were to include emotions in a robot it'd also be subject to depression, anger and saddness, all of which can lead to bad productivity. Get rid of emotions and you've got an unstoppable work force.
Then there's the whole plants and animals deal. And my question is: why bother? A project like this would cost not just billions, but trillions of dollars to research, develop and mass produce. And instead, one could simply spend a fraction of that and fix up the entire world.
This is just another example of humans trying to simplify and make life easier but achieving nothing other than creating countless more complications.
I dunno. It depends on what the creators of the robots wish to have. If you were to include emotions in a robot it'd also be subject to depression, anger and saddness, all of which can lead to bad productivity. Get rid of emotions and you've got an unstoppable work force.
Then there's the whole plants and animals deal. And my question is: why bother? A project like this would cost not just billions, but trillions of dollars to research, develop and mass produce. And instead, one could simply spend a fraction of that and fix up the entire world.
This is just another example of humans trying to simplify and make life easier but achieving nothing other than creating countless more complications.
Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:44 pm
Count me in!
Why are people so afraid of what they have not yet experienced? Don't base your opinion on thoughts, base it on experience.
Why are people so afraid of what they have not yet experienced? Don't base your opinion on thoughts, base it on experience.
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:53 am
Stijn wrote:Count me in!
Why are people so afraid of what they have not yet experienced? Don't base your opinion on thoughts, base it on experience.
That theory isn't necessarily true. I haven't been shot recently, but from what I've seen, it looks like it hurts. I'm not planning on experiencing it myself any time soon.
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:47 am
*watches video* With the funky dance music in the background, it seems like a trailer for a movie/video game/anime, not something for real life. o.O
I personally wouldn't mind living with a bunch of robots, as long as they don't malfunction and start wiping out the human race and whatnot. 'cuz, you know, we'd be finished and all.
Besides, it'll probably be years and years before they make robots with the A.I. to match humans/animals/plants (XD). I'll worry when the time comes.
And there were lightsaber sounds in it...
I personally wouldn't mind living with a bunch of robots, as long as they don't malfunction and start wiping out the human race and whatnot. 'cuz, you know, we'd be finished and all.
Besides, it'll probably be years and years before they make robots with the A.I. to match humans/animals/plants (XD). I'll worry when the time comes.
And there were lightsaber sounds in it...