What is this "¬" exactly?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:29 pm

I don't remember ever seeing this "¬" in English class. It seems like people in the UK use it more often than those in the US but maybe that's just some coincedince?

¬_¬ ?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:34 pm

I think it has to do with math...

Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:37 pm

I don't know what it is, but I know that the UK keyboards actually have a "¬" key on them....And they're great for making the ¬_¬ face!

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Â¬

Website · Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:44 pm

Only English keyboards have easy access to the ¬ key, which means they can do the ¬_¬ face! Of course, I have no idea what it is other than that.

Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:15 pm

In my keyboard a lot of space is taken up by accented letters, so we don't have room for it (nor for the squiggle~)

Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:18 pm

It's the logical symbol for negation. People in the UK use it more often because it's on their keyboard in the same location as ~, the tilde, is on the US keyboard. More information about the two layouts is here. Crazy Brits. Those weird return and left shift keys drive me insane.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:39 am

I use it when I think people are being really, really, really, really, rediculously silly - like in maths exams, when the question is really hard in the hopes that the teacher will come to the realization that his question was uber hard and thus should give me extra marks for being able to recognize the difficulty of such a question. Take that maths teacher!

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:43 am

Ski wrote:It's the logical symbol for negation. People in the UK use it more often because it's on their keyboard in the same location as ~, the tilde, is on the US keyboard. More information about the two layouts is here. Crazy Brits. Those weird return and left shift keys drive me insane.

:O american keyboards are so strange

And if anyone is wondering, that ~ on the keyboard is for writing with fancy letters. your supposed to be able to hit the ~ then a and it comes up with ã, cept when i try it just fools around >_>

ps, what is the back slash \ For???

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:30 pm

I think "¬" looks like a face on it's own. Reminds me of the "zoinked" face on the shout box. The quotes are the eyes and the mouth has some drool. People should start using that one.

The \ is mainly used in computer programming.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:48 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_(punctuation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation

Wiki knows all.

[you have to c&p the first one, since it doesn't like the (punctuation) part.]

(Guillemets are t3h hawt)

Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:09 pm

How do Japanese people type in Kanji? I know that there is hiragana and katakana but Ive only seen people type in hiragana and in kanji... there isnt any room on the keyboard so how the heck do they find it? Ive always imaged a little window that has all the kanji stuff in it... but that would take way to long to find everything you wanted to type out... O_o

Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:17 pm

.:Blank Stare:. wrote:How do Japanese people type in Kanji? I know that there is hiragana and katakana but Ive only seen people type in hiragana and in kanji... there isnt any room on the keyboard so how the heck do they find it? Ive always imaged a little window that has all the kanji stuff in it... but that would take way to long to find everything you wanted to type out... O_o

I've always wondered that as well....I think it would be neat to have a keyboard with hiragana, then shift to give you the katakana, and then the most common radicals which could be combined to form kanji....

It probably has to do with the word processor, though. O.o

Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:36 pm

Amethyst wrote:
.:Blank Stare:. wrote:How do Japanese people type in Kanji? I know that there is hiragana and katakana but Ive only seen people type in hiragana and in kanji... there isnt any room on the keyboard so how the heck do they find it? Ive always imaged a little window that has all the kanji stuff in it... but that would take way to long to find everything you wanted to type out... O_o

I've always wondered that as well....I think it would be neat to have a keyboard with hiragana, then shift to give you the katakana, and then the most common radicals which could be combined to form kanji....

It probably has to do with the word processor, though. O.o

Back when I still had Windows 98 (which was sadly only about a year ago), Microsoft had a download of some sort that would allow you to input hiragana, katakana, and kanji. It was quite smart too. You just told it hiragana or katakana and start typing. The letters would change to characters if you input them right, then all you would have to do to change to kanji was highlight and hit another key. (I think it was alt or something). It was quite fun to play with. They also had Hangul and Hanzi too, but I rarely used those.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:39 pm

Babelfish is the only translator I can actually think of that would do it.

But, I think I can change my default Language on Linux to type like that. Reason number 509a to love Linux.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:32 pm

.:Blank Stare:. wrote:How do Japanese people type in Kanji? I know that there is hiragana and katakana but Ive only seen people type in hiragana and in kanji... there isnt any room on the keyboard so how the heck do they find it? Ive always imaged a little window that has all the kanji stuff in it... but that would take way to long to find everything you wanted to type out... O_o

There's a page here that describes the use of Microsoft's Japanese Input Method Editor (IME). There's some way that it converts hiragana to kanji.