Letters from Wales (Warning: Ranting ahead)

[hikaru_dream]

As the title says, we are penpaling students about the same age who are in Wales.
We got the letters today.
Some, like the ones sent to me, are fairly good, at least readable and they talk about something. Most of the other letters though, are horrible. They spell worse then people using English as a second language, there are no periods, capitals in weird places or none at all, and worst of all the handwriting is messy; the type of handwriting written when you're trying to write a paragraph in three seconds.

For goodness sake, if you can't spell, type it into the computer and use spellcheck

Even the one who hates English here trys to write so it's at least understandable...........


...............Ok I'm sorry, but that was needed.

Can anyone please tell me a way to write the above in a somewhat polite way? I couldn't think of anyway polite enough.

[zorg]

They're welsh. Dont bother.


*runs away*

How about the teacher? Tell your teacher to tell their teacher that they need to spend more time on the letter and its terrible!

[shapu]

They're welsh. Dont bother.


*runs away*

How about the teacher? Tell your teacher to tell their teacher that they need to spend more time on the letter and its terrible!

Hay my ansesstorz was welsh! They were S-M-R-T smart!!!!!!1!!!shiftone!!!

I would definitely talk to your teacher about why you had to do penpalling to a kindergarten class, because that's how they're spelling.

[DiscordantNote]

Sounds like they've been heavily effected by recent internet trends. That would explain the odd capitalization and punctuation issues anyway. Can you find out what kind of school your penpals go to? That might explain a few things.

By the way, I deleted the extra topic you posted. Just so you know.

[jellyoflight]

Actually, to a fair few people in Wales, English is their second language

*feels morally obliged to stick up for incompetant neighbours*

[Pixa]

Actually, to a fair few people in Wales, English is their second language

*feels morally obliged to stick up for incompetant neighbours*

That's what I was going to say, but you stole it.
Still, a lot of people do have poor grammar. My brother has been influenced by the internet, and he's nearly 19. We just can't all be perfect. Though some can.

[hikaru_dream]

Sorry, didn't notice the extra topic.

Actually, I said much of the same as in my post a couple times
I just don't want my teacher to get in trouble for complaining on my side.

Grammer, as long as it's readable, is fine, but I just really really wish that they'd write more carefully and not do the three second thing.

[Ski]

All the people I know who speak English as a second language tend to pay closer attention to details and spelling. It's probably because they're really motivated to learn. Somewhat like why I pay more attention to detail in Spanish and why my Japanese handwriting is much neater than English.

If only all the native speakers were like that, the Internet would be much easier to read. =P

[hakojo]

All the people I know who speak English as a second language tend to pay closer attention to details and spelling. It's probably because they're really motivated to learn. Somewhat like why I pay more attention to detail in Spanish and why my Japanese handwriting is much neater than English.

If only all the native speakers were like that, the Internet would be much easier to read. =P

Your Japanese handwriting is neater? Mine's as big a mess as my English handwriting.

It's a shame some of the people writing letters aren't doing as thorough a job as they could be. After all, it's fun to talk to people in other places, and they may as well say something meaningful. And legible.

[Twilight]

Well do you write to them in Welsh? Maybe there thinking the same things when they recieve your letters.

But same goes for me, as what everyone else said. Ask your teacher.

[Carson]

First off don't complain about their 'Grammer' that's a good starting point. As someone who's first language is Welsh I can tell you of the difficulty I've had speaking and spelling English. Welsh and English work very differently and sometimes as Welsh is my first language I'll naturally import some of the Welsh rules into the English.

Give us a break.

[CWisgood]

First off don't complain about their 'Grammer' that's a good starting point. As someone who's first language is Welsh I can tell you of the difficulty I've had speaking and spelling English. Welsh and English work very differently and sometimes as Welsh is my first language I'll naturally import some of the Welsh rules into the English.

Give us a break.

Chinese is even more different from English, yet a lot of Chinese people (like me and WIS) still maintain a decent standard.

If you bothered to read the first post, you would've known that the main problem was the lack of periods, capitalizations and messy handwriting. I don't speak or write Welsh, but I'm pretty sure no language in the world (with the possible exception of chatspeak) has these rules.

Stop regarding hikaru_dream as this huge racist or something. <_<

[Asthaloth]

English is a horrendously confusing language, concerned not only with temporal tenses (She did, she is, she will) but also breaking it's own rules at every possible oppotunity.
(A before E except after C and when making an A sound... Or whenever I damn well feel like it)

[hikaru_dream]

First off don't complain about their 'Grammer' that's a good starting point. As someone who's first language is Welsh I can tell you of the difficulty I've had speaking and spelling English. Welsh and English work very differently and sometimes as Welsh is my first language I'll naturally import some of the Welsh rules into the English.

Give us a break.

I'm sorry, I guess it could sound like that.
I'm not mad or anything, it really could sound like that. But I just want to get this straight. I said that most were like that, I didn't check all of them. I don't care whether the grammer is bad or not, at least if they tried to write something. You may think so as well if you see the letters.
And I'm just talking about some people in all of Wales; not all.

And thanks, Cwisgood m(_ _)m
(I couldn't find a smiley close enough, so I used a japanese one :p)

Last edited by hikaru_dream on Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:39 am, edited 2 times in total.

[Carson]

First off don't complain about their 'Grammer' that's a good starting point. As someone who's first language is Welsh I can tell you of the difficulty I've had speaking and spelling English. Welsh and English work very differently and sometimes as Welsh is my first language I'll naturally import some of the Welsh rules into the English.

Give us a break.

I'm sorry, I guess it could sound like that.
I'm not mad or anything, it really could sound like that. But I just want to get this straight. I said that most were like that, I didn't check all of them. I don't care whether the grammer is bad or not, at least if they tried to write something. You may think so as well if you see the letters.
And I'm just talking about some people in all of Wales; not all.

And thanks, CWisgood m(_ _)m
(I couldn't find a smiley close enough, so I used a japanese one :p)

I'm not being racist as WIS would like to suggest, thank you very much by the way, and I'm not annoyed, I don't know I just know how difficult it is to speak English after speaking Welsh as a mother tongue. The part that confused me is that we used the same letters etc but that they were represented differently, I still mess up on that. Anyway I'm sorry for the aggresive nature of my post if that's how it was taken. Like I said, I've had to work hard for my 'skills' of the English language, ask anyone that has known me for years on PPT they can testify I was pretty damn bad. Again, sorry.