Something similar to iPod
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am
I heard that Sony was making something similar to the iPod.. does anybody know what this is called?
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:15 am
Erm, I think they mentioned it in a computer mag I order...
Let me check.
It's called MZN510, I think. It was mentioned as a "IPod Killer", so I guess this is what you were looking for.
Let me check.
It's called MZN510, I think. It was mentioned as a "IPod Killer", so I guess this is what you were looking for.
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:47 am
Another popular one is the Nomad, made by Sony. I belive Rio make some quality music players aswell. Two of my friends have ipods and the screens get easily scatched, they are fragile dont have very good antiskip technology, based on these two cases. Apart from their stylish look and easy navigational system I don't like ipods that much.
EDIT: My bad, Sony don't make Nomads...
EDIT: My bad, Sony don't make Nomads...
Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:37 pm
I'm sure there are other companies that make products simular to ipods, and probably cheaper, but ipods are the best.
I'v been on a waiting list for more than 2 months for an ipod mini, and accoring to amazon I will only be getting it in another 2-3 months
I'v been on a waiting list for more than 2 months for an ipod mini, and accoring to amazon I will only be getting it in another 2-3 months
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:09 pm
It just doesn't matter who makes it because they are all too expensive for me to get.
I do think I-Pods are cool though...
I do think I-Pods are cool though...
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:24 pm
My dad managed to break like...three Ipods in a time period of three months, or something like that. *shakes head* x.x My mp3 player is barely better - it's called an Archos Jukebox and it's decent when it's not having issues.
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:29 am
I have an iPod, I know everything thats bad about it, but I like it because it makes me look good 
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Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:40 am
Shifty wrote:I'm sure there are other companies that make products simular to ipods, and probably cheaper, but ipods are the best.
I'v been on a waiting list for more than 2 months for an ipod mini, and accoring to amazon I will only be getting it in another 2-3 months
Apparently you have to get a new battery every 6 months with ipod minis, which sounds really stupid.
Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:49 am
Mr. Darkside wrote:Erm, I think they mentioned it in a computer mag I order...
Let me check.
It's called MZN510, I think. It was mentioned as a "IPod Killer", so I guess this is what you were looking for.
Thanks for your help.. but.. that looks like a MD player.. I'm not sure if that's the one. Just that my brother told me there was something Sony was making which is better than iPod, and has the same function. That is, music.
hellyer wrote:Shifty wrote:I'm sure there are other companies that make products simular to ipods, and probably cheaper, but ipods are the best.
I'v been on a waiting list for more than 2 months for an ipod mini, and accoring to amazon I will only be getting it in another 2-3 months
Apparently you have to get a new battery every 6 months with ipod minis, which sounds really stupid.
Isn't that the same for iPod? I heard it was.. and that's why my brother said he doesn't think it's worth getting an iPod because of that.
Thanks everyone else, but still can't find what I think would be what my brother's talking about.
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:48 pm
*disclaimer* I own an Ipod
Olay -- first things first. You don't have to get a new battery every 6 months with anything. Not sure where you heard that but it's a rumor. The ipod has an internal battery that usualy needs to be replaced by pro's. The new sony device has the same type of battery. They're both expensive to replace if you have problems.
I don't know about what battery problems the sony device may have but it's not designed to be replaced every 6 months.
Secondly sony has a new, small, mp3 player that it's trying to tout as an "ipod killer". Because the media likes sensationalism they're going for it. However there hasn't been any kind of dent or slowdown in ipod sales.
The product you're looking for is the Sony NW-HD1
*EDIT* WARNING: Slashdot contains language and content innapropreate for younger users. It's a forum where tech related news articals are posted and people can comment about them. However users can say whatever they want and it's not necessarily all ages appropreate. Sorry I didn't think about that before I posted the link In this case the blurb posted talks about the WSJ artical but the users have a discussion about different types of mp3 player as well as the pro's and cons of the sony device and corperation in particular. I thought this was useful since it's a technicaly inclined forum that dosen't have a reason to lean towards any particular device.*/EDIT*
Here's a slashdot artical about it
and a Wall Street Journal artical about it. This artical has a comparison of the sony player the ipod and the mini at the bottom.
The sony player is somewhat smaller than the ipod (with much less capacity than larger models of ipod, and more expensive than comperable versions) but bigger than the ipod mini (which only has 5 gigs of storage but is very very cool looking)
What really killed the device in my mind (people live with bad User Interface all the time) is the fact that the Sony player DOSEN'T PLAY MP3's
It plays it's own file format and will change over all your files when you load them on the disk. This takes a very very long time. It will also try to back up those reformated files on your computer so loading dosen't take as long the next time. This may seem like a good idea but I don't know anyone who'ed like to double the size of their mp3 collection for no good reason.
It uses this format theoreticaly to fit more songs on the player but unless you choose a very low song quality it fits the same number of songs as any 20 gig mp3 player but without the ease of use.
*edit again* the newest ipod is smaller/lighter than the one in the wsj comparision -- the forth gen is awesome
Also I promise no more edits
Illumination wrote:Mr. Darkside wrote:Erm, I think they mentioned it in a computer mag I order...
Let me check.
It's called MZN510, I think. It was mentioned as a "IPod Killer", so I guess this is what you were looking for.
Thanks for your help.. but.. that looks like a MD player.. I'm not sure if that's the one. Just that my brother told me there was something Sony was making which is better than iPod, and has the same function. That is, music.hellyer wrote:Shifty wrote:I'm sure there are other companies that make products simular to ipods, and probably cheaper, but ipods are the best.
I'v been on a waiting list for more than 2 months for an ipod mini, and accoring to amazon I will only be getting it in another 2-3 months
Apparently you have to get a new battery every 6 months with ipod minis, which sounds really stupid.
Isn't that the same for iPod? I heard it was.. and that's why my brother said he doesn't think it's worth getting an iPod because of that.
Thanks everyone else, but still can't find what I think would be what my brother's talking about.
Olay -- first things first. You don't have to get a new battery every 6 months with anything. Not sure where you heard that but it's a rumor. The ipod has an internal battery that usualy needs to be replaced by pro's. The new sony device has the same type of battery. They're both expensive to replace if you have problems.
I don't know about what battery problems the sony device may have but it's not designed to be replaced every 6 months.
Secondly sony has a new, small, mp3 player that it's trying to tout as an "ipod killer". Because the media likes sensationalism they're going for it. However there hasn't been any kind of dent or slowdown in ipod sales.
The product you're looking for is the Sony NW-HD1
*EDIT* WARNING: Slashdot contains language and content innapropreate for younger users. It's a forum where tech related news articals are posted and people can comment about them. However users can say whatever they want and it's not necessarily all ages appropreate. Sorry I didn't think about that before I posted the link In this case the blurb posted talks about the WSJ artical but the users have a discussion about different types of mp3 player as well as the pro's and cons of the sony device and corperation in particular. I thought this was useful since it's a technicaly inclined forum that dosen't have a reason to lean towards any particular device.*/EDIT*
Here's a slashdot artical about it
and a Wall Street Journal artical about it. This artical has a comparison of the sony player the ipod and the mini at the bottom.
The sony player is somewhat smaller than the ipod (with much less capacity than larger models of ipod, and more expensive than comperable versions) but bigger than the ipod mini (which only has 5 gigs of storage but is very very cool looking)
What really killed the device in my mind (people live with bad User Interface all the time) is the fact that the Sony player DOSEN'T PLAY MP3's
It plays it's own file format and will change over all your files when you load them on the disk. This takes a very very long time. It will also try to back up those reformated files on your computer so loading dosen't take as long the next time. This may seem like a good idea but I don't know anyone who'ed like to double the size of their mp3 collection for no good reason.
It uses this format theoreticaly to fit more songs on the player but unless you choose a very low song quality it fits the same number of songs as any 20 gig mp3 player but without the ease of use.
*edit again* the newest ipod is smaller/lighter than the one in the wsj comparision -- the forth gen is awesome
Also I promise no more edits
Last edited by B55B55 on Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:16 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:10 pm
I'm getting an Ipod for my birthday, but I think there will be some kind of newer version by January, so I'm not sure 
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:14 pm
Shoelace wrote:I'm getting an Ipod for my birthday, but I think there will be some kind of newer version by January, so I'm not sure :?
Mac just realeased a new Ipod so I don't know if they'll have another one out that soon. (Mac enthusists might know more than me)
Apparently the newest player is awesome.
Longer battery life, more on the go playlists, and the buttons are moved to facilitate ui and some other things.
I actualy have a friend who's upgrading to the new ipod (gen 4) from a gen-2 ipod so I don't think you'll be too dissapointed if you end up with this latest release
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:22 pm
What is ipod? I have no idea so I will prbably have no idea on what you are talking about....and I don't. 
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:26 pm
An Ipod is a "walkman" sort of thing that holds/plays mp3's.
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:31 pm
Twitchy wrote:What is ipod? I have no idea so I will prbably have no idea on what you are talking about....and I don't.
Ipod is a jutebox style mp3 player developed and sold by Apple (the people who make mac computers)
Jutebox style player means that it's designed to hold all of your mp3's as opposed to players with a smaller capacity where you load on a few and then change them out later.
At the moment the iPod is the dominant jutebox style player on the market. It has good ergonomic design/user interface and it's small
Here is apples ipod page
The ipod mini is a smaller player, that holds only 5 gigs of music. While some consider it a jutebox it's really compeating with smaller solid state devices. This is the ipod that comes in colors
Here is apples page for the ipod mini