Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:57 pm
Isn't it kinda like asking if everyone jumped at the same time on just the ground, would that change the revolution around the sun, and move earth's axis a bit?
Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:21 pm
well seeing as the earths orbit is already a bit... skewif, probably would.
anyway, the Earths orbit is already decaying.
only a few thousand billion years then we collapse into the sun, the fact that the sun will die long before then is another matter.
anyway, the Earths orbit is already decaying.
only a few thousand billion years then we collapse into the sun, the fact that the sun will die long before then is another matter.
Re: What do you think would happen if...
Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:27 am
Shoyru_Lover wrote:If everyone in the world jumped into the sea and peed at the same time? Would global water temperatures rise causing the polar ice caps to melt and flood?
Had to laugh. My kid (AKA Baby Poogle Eater), in that sarcastic voice only a 13 year old girl possesses, just read this and said "Shoyru Lover, he's a mod or admin or something, isn't he supposed to be fairly sane?"
Ah, the stuff that flows from the mouths of babes.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:52 am
Now if we can get each peron to do that, lets get them each to give my a penny. Even if 1/10th of the worlds popular did it, id still ahve 6 million dollars 
Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:51 am
Hmm... interesting, I say we should try it. On a smaller scale of course. Round up some random PPTers, stick them in a rather large pool, make sure none of them have gone to the restroom for a few days, have only consumed fluids for their meals, and viola, you get something in no way accurate to the world doing it in the ocean, but you get a lot of rather strange (that's... sugar-coating it) people that smell like urinals. Of course... I can't be in the pool because I'll be recording the "scientific data". I'm sure you understand... 
(Also, by the time everyone got into the sea [there'd obviously be crowding around the coasts], people would be drowning left and right and I'm sure that most of the people couldn't hold it, nor live, long enough to wait until everyone got into the ocean in the first place.
)
(Also, by the time everyone got into the sea [there'd obviously be crowding around the coasts], people would be drowning left and right and I'm sure that most of the people couldn't hold it, nor live, long enough to wait until everyone got into the ocean in the first place.
)
Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:58 am
On a second thought, would anyone actually want to do it? I know I wouldn't... ultimately I'd be covered with whatever is being let out and I'd feel pretty dirty afterwards.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:02 am
Im scared of the sea I dont think id be doing that any time soon.
I dont think id be doing that any time soon.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:05 am
Runevalkyrie wrote:Zega wrote:SL where do you think these things?
I don't think you'd want to know
I'll take your advice, Rune. o_o
Yukio, you are cool and all... but you are very scary sometimes. Very, very scary. And that frightens me.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:10 am
Twizzler0171 wrote:Runevalkyrie wrote:Zega wrote:SL where do you think these things?
I don't think you'd want to know
I'll take your advice, Rune. o_o
Yukio, you are cool and all... but you are very scary sometimes. Very, very scary. And that frightens me.
Tch, let the geniuses do their work. I believe, some day, he will actually find the answer he seeks, and he will die a very happy man (well... actually he'd probably drown as well, but who cares?). But, as that may be, do not hinder his work. o_o We can only sit and wait in eager anticipation at the mere thought of what could be. Now... if you don't mind, I'm taking a little trip to the coast.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:31 am
Yukio?
You scare me.
You really do.
You scare me.
You really do.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:55 am
The answer is certainly not. Mathematics is your friend.
The deepest point to which the ocean floor extends is over 3000 meters, but for the sake of simplicity, let's say on average, the ocean floor is 1000 meters deep.
So imagine the Earth as a giant sphere. The radius of the earth is roughly 6,380,000 meters. So imagine the outer 1000-meters of this giant sphere is water. To calculate the volume of this water we need:
Formula, volume of a sphere: 4/3 * pi * r^2
What we can do is calculate the total volume of earth, and subtract from it the volume of the non-water part, leaving us with a rough approximation of the volume of the oceans. But because the Earth is in actuality only ~70% water, we need to multiply this figure by .7.
In numbers:
([4/3 * pi * (6,380,000)^2] - [4/3 * pi * (6,380,000 - 1000)^2]) * .7
Throwing this into the calculator, we get: 5.1188 x 10^13 cubic meters of water. To get an idea of how big this is, 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters. To get a better idea of how big this is, let me type it out for you instead of using scientific notation:
Volume, Earth's ocean: 51,188,068,945,470,000 liters.
Yeah folks, over fifty quadrillion. Assuming every human urinates one liter into the ocean (and one liter is generous...you'd need a big bladder to do that), we'd have 6,500,000,000 liters of urine.
Ratio, ocean water to urine: 51,188,068,945,470,000 / 6,500,000,000 = 7,875,087.5
That is, for every one liter of urine excreted, there's over seven million liters of ocean water to match it. In essence, your little experiment will have no effect whatsoever on the temperature of the ocean.
On a similar note, the displacement caused by humans dipping into the water simultaneously will also be near-negligible. Assuming the average human displaces 20 liters of water (this is again being very generous), the amount of water displaced would be 20 * 6,500,000,000 = 13 billion liters.
Compared to the 50 quadrillion liters of water in the ocean to begin with, this displacement will have virtually no effect at all.
The deepest point to which the ocean floor extends is over 3000 meters, but for the sake of simplicity, let's say on average, the ocean floor is 1000 meters deep.
So imagine the Earth as a giant sphere. The radius of the earth is roughly 6,380,000 meters. So imagine the outer 1000-meters of this giant sphere is water. To calculate the volume of this water we need:
Formula, volume of a sphere: 4/3 * pi * r^2
What we can do is calculate the total volume of earth, and subtract from it the volume of the non-water part, leaving us with a rough approximation of the volume of the oceans. But because the Earth is in actuality only ~70% water, we need to multiply this figure by .7.
In numbers:
([4/3 * pi * (6,380,000)^2] - [4/3 * pi * (6,380,000 - 1000)^2]) * .7
Throwing this into the calculator, we get: 5.1188 x 10^13 cubic meters of water. To get an idea of how big this is, 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters. To get a better idea of how big this is, let me type it out for you instead of using scientific notation:
Volume, Earth's ocean: 51,188,068,945,470,000 liters.
Yeah folks, over fifty quadrillion. Assuming every human urinates one liter into the ocean (and one liter is generous...you'd need a big bladder to do that), we'd have 6,500,000,000 liters of urine.
Ratio, ocean water to urine: 51,188,068,945,470,000 / 6,500,000,000 = 7,875,087.5
That is, for every one liter of urine excreted, there's over seven million liters of ocean water to match it. In essence, your little experiment will have no effect whatsoever on the temperature of the ocean.
On a similar note, the displacement caused by humans dipping into the water simultaneously will also be near-negligible. Assuming the average human displaces 20 liters of water (this is again being very generous), the amount of water displaced would be 20 * 6,500,000,000 = 13 billion liters.
Compared to the 50 quadrillion liters of water in the ocean to begin with, this displacement will have virtually no effect at all.
Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:16 am
Wouldn't our time (and urine) be better spent elsewhere?
If people were to commune to Africa and pee in the desert, wouldn't that allow some vegetation to grow, making the land more sustainable to vegetation, reducing poverty and allowing an entire continent a fighting chance. Does this not make sense!
Come on people!
Give Pee A Chance!
If people were to commune to Africa and pee in the desert, wouldn't that allow some vegetation to grow, making the land more sustainable to vegetation, reducing poverty and allowing an entire continent a fighting chance. Does this not make sense!
Come on people!
Give Pee A Chance!
Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:27 am
Blk Mage wrote:Isn't it kinda like asking if everyone jumped at the same time on just the ground, would that change the revolution around the sun, and move earth's axis a bit?
*does a pretty little calculation*
We'd make about 9m/s thrust (earth's huge momentum against the weight of about 6billion people weighing around 75kgs).
However, if we did it on the moon, the moon would reach the escape velocity needed to plummet towards the sun
EVERYONE TO THE MOON!
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:27 am
Wow... power to the masses eh?
Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:21 am
coming2atvnearu wrote:Wouldn't our time (and urine) be better spent elsewhere?
If people were to commune to Africa and pee in the desert, wouldn't that allow some vegetation to grow, making the land more sustainable to vegetation, reducing poverty and allowing an entire continent a fighting chance. Does this not make sense!
Come on people!
Give Pee A Chance!
pee is way to alkeline to make any useful differane,
wed probably kill what is there
besides, we cant destroy the moon, i have great plans for the moon!
great secret plans!
okay, i want to turn it into unicron and get him to go smush some of the universe.