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If you tell the teachers, and get them in trouble through higher authorities, they will NEVER have respect for you. Ever.

A good decking right in the face usually teaches them that you mean business and not to insult you again. In fact, I've heard plenty of stories where people had become best of friends after being in a fight with each other.

So contrary to hippy belief, Violence does not always lead to more violence. Sometimes it can lead to long and lasting friendships, believe it or not.



Yeah, and the guy that kicked me in the balls is best buddies with me.

Like the guy that I nearly pushed down the school stairs is going to help me with my engineering coursework.


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And the guy who i won a fight with didnt try to rob me at knife point with 6 friend.


Its true that sometimes hitting someone can show them you arent made of sticks and that they perhaps shouldnt mess, but it really depends on the person... if they are a paper tiger, it'll sort them out. If not, you'll become a real focal point for their hatred. So unless you hit them unconscious hard, or push them down the stairs, it might not do any good.


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Twisted Sanity wrote:
If you tell the teachers, and get them in trouble through higher authorities, they will NEVER have respect for you. Ever.

A good decking right in the face usually teaches them that you mean business and not to insult you again. In fact, I've heard plenty of stories where people had become best of friends after being in a fight with each other.

So contrary to hippy belief, Violence does not always lead to more violence. Sometimes it can lead to long and lasting friendships, believe it or not.


Tis not a hippie belief :P. I mean you think that these "bestfriends" later when they get in an verbal argument aren't going to remember the "fight" and who threw the first punch and get at it again? The violence doesn't have to be back to back to say that violence only leads to more violence. And the only way to tell me this isn't true is if you are one of these bestfriends or something, even then I'll say just wait :P.

Anyhow, I'd tell the parents or teachers. This doesn't always go well, he will probably mock you for doing it and may actually lead to a fight. The way I see it though is, you are trying to stop the problem by taking the correct approach and avoid a fight, who knows it may work. In the case that telling someone else doesn't work and the kid wants to fight you know, well then at least you will have parents, teachers knowing that you were probably trying to defend yourself and the punishment if any for you school wise may be less severe and he will get suspended.


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If you tell the teachers, and get them in trouble through higher authorities, they will NEVER have respect for you. Ever.

A good decking right in the face usually teaches them that you mean business and not to insult you again. In fact, I've heard plenty of stories where people had become best of friends after being in a fight with each other.

So contrary to hippy belief, Violence does not always lead to more violence. Sometimes it can lead to long and lasting friendships, believe it or not.


This boy hasn't even tried to physically hurt him from what I've seen. If someone tried to hit me, I'd take them out. But why on earth should he care if this idiot "respects" him?


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My best advice would be to just ignore him. Don't reply to the emails, don't snark back in the hallways.. don't look at him, don't do anything. Walk away. Eventually it loses it's entertainment to the person in question, and they'll stop. It's going to take a while. It /will/ take a while. It could be months, it could be weeks, it could be days. If you continue to do it and continue to show him that you really do not care what he thinks of you, then he'll find someone else to pick on.

I'd also advise against getting adults involved. In some situations, yes, it can help things, but I've learned from experience that it generally just makes the teasing worse.


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wow.. good advice.. i laughed a couple of them.. we actually were "friends" last year, untill the end ish of the year came..... and im not going to through the first punch if it gets to a fight, im gonna wait untill he gives me a black eye or somehting so i have physical proof.....


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It is odd how the 'law of the playground' can work..

It's also odd how if girls have a physical fight it's pretty darn serious, but my mate Sandi can give my mate Pete a black eye and an hour later they're laughing and joking together like normal.

Strange gender ;)


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Meh, just telling you all my opinions. This happened to me once on a serious occassion, back in year 5, and once last year.

Both people I'm now friends with.

Of course, there are still those cukoo clocks out there who'll hate you even more after/if you beat them. But quite often it works itself out.

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This boy hasn't even tried to physically hurt him from what I've seen. If someone tried to hit me, I'd take them out. But why on earth should he care if this idiot "respects" him?


Heheh, sorry, I got on a roll, forgot that they haven't actually had a fight yet. But if one arises....

And respect is important. If you don't have respect for someone, you feel as if you can do whatever you wish to them. If you've got respect, you know that they actually care about what happens to them.


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My best advice would be to just ignore him. Don't reply to the emails, don't snark back in the hallways.. don't look at him, don't do anything. Walk away. Eventually it loses it's entertainment to the person in question, and they'll stop. It's going to take a while. It /will/ take a while. It could be months, it could be weeks, it could be days. If you continue to do it and continue to show him that you really do not care what he thinks of you, then he'll find someone else to pick on.


Yeah, but then you'd also have to endure months of bullying, and it might not even resolve.

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I'd also advise against getting adults involved. In some situations, yes, it can help things, but I've learned from experience that it generally just makes the teasing worse.


I think that's generally a myth. If bullying doesn't stop, the situation can get much worse, and can even lead to suicide, etc.

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Is it a very small possiblity he is gay and likes you? I know that is farfetched but there are some people who still act like nine year olds to people when they like them...


Quite unlikely, I think. He wouldn't be going around calling people gay, for one thing. Though possible.

And finally, I do agree that violence leads to more violence. Plus you may even be suspended or expelled instead, which would have no advantage for you.


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My best advice would be to just ignore him. Don't reply to the emails, don't snark back in the hallways.. don't look at him, don't do anything. Walk away. Eventually it loses it's entertainment to the person in question, and they'll stop. It's going to take a while. It /will/ take a while. It could be months, it could be weeks, it could be days. If you continue to do it and continue to show him that you really do not care what he thinks of you, then he'll find someone else to pick on.


Yeah, but then you'd also have to endure months of bullying, and it might not even resolve.


If it doesn't resolve, you just keep ignoring it. Not everything in life gets better, ya know. I went through three solid years of people telling everyone else that I was gay and went in the bathrooms to kiss other girls. For a while they were even throwing rocks at us. But you have to keep your head high and go about your business. At least don't let them see they've got to you.

Of course, I guess that made me pretty dry and hard-hearted after a while....But no one bothers me anymore.

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I'd also advise against getting adults involved. In some situations, yes, it can help things, but I've learned from experience that it generally just makes the teasing worse.


I think that's generally a myth. If bullying doesn't stop, the situation can get much worse, and can even lead to suicide, etc.


No, it's perfectly true. Most of the time the adults say they'll handle it, but they never do anything. Case in point: 7th grade, where the boys were throwing rocks at us at recess. We went and told the principal, who said he'd take care of it and to come back if there were any more problems. There were, and I came in a day or so later because I had a bruise about the size of a walnut on my shoulder from where I'd been hit with another rock. He said that I shouldn't make things up to try to get people in trouble, and that he'd have to see the bruise and the rock as proof. I walked out in disgust, and later found out that he never did a damn thing about the boys in the first place. Finally my parents complained, and he smoothed the whole thing over by saying that they were just trying to get our attention because we're attractive young ladies and men are stupid, etc.

:roll:

As far as I know, the people throwing rocks at us never got so much as a warning, let alone the suspensions they should have recieved (by school code) for physical harm and sexual harassment.

Eep, sorry for the rant. Anyway, it's generally not a good idea to place your trust in administrators. :) Just don't take it seriously. Who cares what these people think? Don't let them get in your way.


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If it doesn't resolve, you just keep ignoring it. Not everything in life gets better, ya know. I went through three solid years of people telling everyone else that I was gay and went in the bathrooms to kiss other girls. For a while they were even throwing rocks at us. But you have to keep your head high and go about your business. At least don't let them see they've got to you.

Of course, I guess that made me pretty dry and hard-hearted after a while....But no one bothers me anymore.


Haha, I guess you're right. But I really think it depends on the severity of the bullying. I mean, being called "gay" isn't that hard to ignore in the first place, and gay isn't even an insult, unless (for some reason) you associate gay people to negative terms. However, what if someone was like, stealing your lunch money every day? Or punching your nose and making you bleed or something. Those have to resolve. If it goes on, it can cause severe issues, including suicide, as I said before.

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No, it's perfectly true. Most of the time the adults say they'll handle it, but they never do anything. Case in point: 7th grade, where the boys were throwing rocks at us at recess. We went and told the principal, who said he'd take care of it and to come back if there were any more problems. There were, and I came in a day or so later because I had a bruise about the size of a walnut on my shoulder from where I'd been hit with another rock. He said that I shouldn't make things up to try to get people in trouble, and that he'd have to see the bruise and the rock as proof. I walked out in disgust, and later found out that he never did a damn thing about the boys in the first place. Finally my parents complained, and he smoothed the whole thing over by saying that they were just trying to get our attention because we're attractive young ladies and men are stupid, etc.

:roll:

As far as I know, the people throwing rocks at us never got so much as a warning, let alone the suspensions they should have recieved (by school code) for physical harm and sexual harassment.

Eep, sorry for the rant. Anyway, it's generally not a good idea to place your trust in administrators. :) Just don't take it seriously. Who cares what these people think? Don't let them get in your way.


Lol, maybe you just have a bad principal. Most important thing is to go tell your parents, they can probably help you. And maybe the teachers whom you can trust (this may or may not include the principal).


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