Anything and everything goes in here... within reason.
Topic locked

Do two wrongs make a right?

Yes, it's just like an "eye for an eye" or "crime and punishment."
10
33%
No, "karma" will make sure everything turns out fair.
11
37%
I don't care if it's right or wrong, they deserve it.
6
20%
Oh well, I'm a push over. I'll get over it.
3
10%
 
Total votes : 30

Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:34 pm

Yes.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:35 pm

Yes.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:59 pm

I'm going to go with the three wrongs make a right. *angriness* :P

Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:29 pm

Bangel wrote:
Setekh wrote:
DM was on fire! wrote:I agree with Setekh. Punishment is deserved where it's needed.


Had to happen eventually I guess.
Don't belive in Karma, it stinks of "Third world citizens did something bad in a previous life so nyeah" to me.


Plain, unreligious "karma" and "past lives" are two entirely unrelated subjects.


yeah, unreligious super beings making things right in the world... :roll:

Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:22 pm

Setekh wrote:
Bangel wrote:
Setekh wrote:
DM was on fire! wrote:I agree with Setekh. Punishment is deserved where it's needed.


Had to happen eventually I guess.
Don't belive in Karma, it stinks of "Third world citizens did something bad in a previous life so nyeah" to me.


Plain, unreligious "karma" and "past lives" are two entirely unrelated subjects.


yeah, unreligious super beings making things right in the world... :roll:


That's not the view everybody has on it, though. Not everyone thinks it's a higher power, some people think it's just... what is.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:02 pm

Bangel wrote:"An eye for an eye"? No. If someone chops off your leg, you are not legally entitled to chop their leg off in return. I, personally, am a firm believer of karma- the leg-chopper will get their punishment eventually, you don't need to hurry the process.


I couldn't agree with you more!

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:21 pm

Bangel wrote:
That's not the view everybody has on it, though. Not everyone thinks it's a higher power, some people think it's just... what is.


So whom enforces this way?
What enforces it?
There has to be something to enforce such an arbitrary rule.
Someone, something, It doesn't really matter.
But things dont happen on their own, there must be cause, effect and catalyst.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:24 pm

Setekh wrote:
Bangel wrote:
That's not the view everybody has on it, though. Not everyone thinks it's a higher power, some people think it's just... what is.


So whom enforces this way?
What enforces it?
There has to be something to enforce such an arbitrary rule.
Someone, something, It doesn't really matter.
But things dont happen on their own, there must be cause, effect and catalyst.


It doesn't matter what there "has to be". Some people just believe it's there, don't know why, accept it, and move on (not that everyone needs to accept it- that's just what they (and I) do). Not everything has to be questioned.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:55 pm

Bangel wrote:
Setekh wrote:
Bangel wrote:
That's not the view everybody has on it, though. Not everyone thinks it's a higher power, some people think it's just... what is.


So whom enforces this way?
What enforces it?
There has to be something to enforce such an arbitrary rule.
Someone, something, It doesn't really matter.
But things dont happen on their own, there must be cause, effect and catalyst.


It doesn't matter what there "has to be". Some people just believe it's there, don't know why, accept it, and move on (not that everyone needs to accept it- that's just what they (and I) do). Not everything has to be questioned.


I don't really believe in Karma to such a great extent cos otherwise wouldn't we all be equal in our sufferings and rewards? I do slightly believe in it but not to such an extent that I think that "everything" balances out.

Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:13 am

Setekh wrote:Don't belive in Karma, it stinks of "Third world citizens did something bad in a previous life so nyeah" to me.


Hey, that's about what I think: I don't believe in "karma" because how do you justify some people being born into poverty and suffering for their entire lives, while others are born into rich families and get anything at all they want? I got into an argument with someone about that, and they were unable to answer that question...

I don't think two wrongs make a right, but I don't believe that someone who wrongs you is always going to get "exactly what they deserve" because of "karma."

Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:14 am

Pantaliamon wrote:
Setekh wrote:Don't belive in Karma, it stinks of "Third world citizens did something bad in a previous life so nyeah" to me.


Hey, that's about what I think: I don't believe in "karma" because how do you justify some people being born into poverty and suffering for their entire lives, while others are born into rich families and get anything at all they want? I got into an argument with that, and they were unable to answer that question...

I don't think two wrongs make a right, but I don't believe that someone who wrongs you is always going to get "exactly what they deserve" because of "karma."


Easy answer: Karma from a past life.

Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:38 am

I don't believe in karma or anything like that. If someone does something to you, something unfortunate may happen to them, but it's just because they were there at the wrong time (unless of course, you hired someone to go after them, then well, they were there at the right time.) If someone does something terrible to another and they are not suspected or accused of it (and no personal action is taken), they're free to live their daily lives as they normally would (though they may become paranoid because of their actions).

I also don't believe that it's always wrong to commit a "wrong" act (seeing there is no real saying that one thing is wrong and another isn't. It's all based on morals which are also iffy). If a situationrequires you to do something "wrong" to save your life, or the life of another, there should be no hesitation on whether or not it's wrong, a person shouldn't really care in a moment like that (unless they want to die).

But to answer the question, it's a simple sometimes. Sometimes two wrongs does make a right, but most of the time it does not. At the same time though, sometimes two rights also make a wrong.

Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:43 am

The fatalism burnses.

Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:53 am

I don't believe in the karma fairy. But there has to be a question about it. If some person did get revenge or exacted justice (or what ever you want to call it), wouldn't that be "balancing" the karma?

Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:59 pm

Hmm.. Yes, but not like an eye for an eye.

A few simple steps.
1) Someone steals something of mine. We aren't cool, or we are 'wrong'.
2) I find out, and find them. We're on our way to reconciliation.
3) I beat the hell out of them, or they beat the hell out of me. We're cool, or 'right'.
Simple.

So, yes.
Topic locked