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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:18 pm 
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You all have to remember that not every thing cost as much as it does in America.
Think of how in the 1940s or whatever, a hotdog used to cost 5 cents, now it'll cost you $2 in the city.

Or to prove my point really, when I was living in Manhattan with only my dad, each grocery run went well over $150... For two people.... Who ate out every single day. Where lunch for one person goes up to $18 a burger. Here in Israel,I pull out about $2.00 a day on lunch.
You eat what you earn.
Very true. Also, there is a huge difference between what is healthful and what is cheap - things like organic greens are good for you, but are much more expensive than a meal of pre-made packaged goods or fast food, which are less healthy.

Part of the issue, though, is that people who are fairly affluent (i.e. Americans and Europeans, mostly) have bigger diets. There is a level of over-eating - I do it, too. I noticed that there were a lot more "snack foods" in certain cultures (although actually I think Japan was the worst with that) while others seemed to be more geared towards 2-3 whole meals a day and nothing in between. It's generally easier to over eat if you eat constantly.


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Point is, even discounting genetic disease, I'll kick the bucket in pretty short order anyway, so I'm not going to sit around eating "organic greens and tofu" for the rest of my days, am I?


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Point is, even discounting genetic disease, I'll kick the bucket in pretty short order anyway, so I'm not going to sit around eating "organic greens and tofu" for the rest of my days, am I?


You know you love that slimey white glob of soy.


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Well, it's totally personal preference. I, for example, really like the taste of tofu and a lot of things that are "healthy" so it's easier for me to pull the health food diet. Also, I have a personal philosophy that prevention is more valuable than maintenance so I tend to invest my energies and moneys towards a food and lifestyle that hopefully prevents me from developing serious illnesses. That being said, here I am spending my entire summer in front of the computer....

Again, it's totally personal opinion, and whatever you want to do is probably right for you.


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I'll stick to a high caffeine, high salt, high sugar diet ta :P


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I'll stick to a high caffeine, high salt, high sugar diet ta :P


That's pretty much what I do. Our family has 8 people and no problem with money, and still we don't eat as much as the American families on there. Almost everything I eat comes from a package except fruits, and I don't even have those very much.

We do eat out a lot, so that might have something to do with it.

Anyways, it's funny how much beer is on the German table.


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Heh, I eat next to nothing but I'm 11stone (154lbs).
A month ago I was 10 stone, but I've eaten out three times and boom, I gain a stone.
Figures eh.


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I eat a TON of junk food, but still I'm 6' 1" and weigh 150 pounds. Maybe it's running 40 miles a week that keeps my weight down.


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Shifty wrote:
You all have to remember that not every thing cost as much as it does in America.
Think of how in the 1940s or whatever, a hotdog used to cost 5 cents, now it'll cost you $2 in the city.

Or to prove my point really, when I was living in Manhattan with only my dad, each grocery run went well over $150... For two people.... Who ate out every single day. Where lunch for one person goes up to $18 a burger. Here in Israel,I pull out about $2.00 a day on lunch.
You eat what you earn.


True. I think that people don't eat as healthy as they should simply because eating healthy costs more and takes more effort. If you're starving but lack money, it's much cheaper (and more convenient) to get say...a cheeseburger at McDonalds or a frozen meal instead of a salad (Produce can be quite expensive). Also, size is an issue. Everything is so BIG now - do you really need to supersize your fries?

I rarely eat fast food, it's just an example.


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My daughter ( the former member known as Baby Poogle Eater) turned vegetarian about a year ago. And ever since then, I have really started eating healthier. Just because I had to figure out things to cook for her that gave her all of the protein and calcium she needed. A lot of bean and rice combos, pasta dishes, salads, even hummus. And I never thought I'd eat hummus. I used to be a card carrying member of Mickey D's. But, I had a Big Mac the other day and, ewww, I got such a metallic taste in my mouth afterwards. I still am way into coffee (like I could ever give that up) and like a good steak every now and then, but there are several days a week when I have no meat at all. And well, I never ever thought I'd say that. I feel that I have starting eating healthier than I ever had before. And I owe it all to my daughter. *smile*


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Morningstar wrote:
My daughter ( the former member known as Baby Poogle Eater) turned vegetarian about a year ago.


I give her another year before she becomes 100% carnivorous again. All girls in my boarding school went through their vegetarian phase.


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I'm vegan.

No Big Macs.
No Kentucky Fried Chicken.
No Hershey's chocolate.
No Pizza Hut.
No ice cream.

*wins at eating right*


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Kymothy wrote:
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My daughter ( the former member known as Baby Poogle Eater) turned vegetarian about a year ago.


I give her another year before she becomes 100% carnivorous again. All girls in my boarding school went through their vegetarian phase.


I sort of agree, Kym. I have talked to so many women who said, oh, yes, I was a vegetarian in high school. But, perhaps Nat is different. She is doing it because of the way the world treats animals (she also wears no leather and only vegan shoes), has boycotted McD's (not even for a cup of coffee) because of the way they treated the migrant farm workers, buys only indie CDs and has boycotted Indie bands that later sold out, and OMG, I cannot begin to tell you how she feels about President Bush. And this is only the tip of the iceberg about her feelings about current issues. So, we'll see. She definitely marches to the beat of a different drummer. And if nothing else, she's got me to eating fruits and veggies again. *smile*

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I'm vegan.

No Big Macs.
No Kentucky Fried Chicken.
No Hershey's chocolate.
No Pizza Hut.
No ice cream.

*wins at eating right*


Yay! I will have to tell Nat. Though Nat does eat some chocolate and ice cream. But only ice cream and yogurt from indie type places. She will let Ben and Jerry in. Only stuff that contains no gelatin. And she will let certified fair trade chocolate into her mouth. On occasion. Lucky for us, there's a Whole Foods in our town.


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Yeah. My views sound a lot like your daughter's, only I don't have the willpower to actually go full out on that stuff, and I have a major soft spot for spam which is the most inhuman thing possible. XD

It's cool that people are really willing to go all out and boycott things like that (and I'm proud to say I haven't bought anything from McDonald's in at least 5 years, and probably less than $5 worth of stuff in the past 10 years) but it's pretty difficult to maintain that kind of lifestyle indefinitely. I went for a vegan month, and I near died without having my constant access to cheese. My main goal is to cut down on the amount of lactose I consume (I'm slightly lactose intolerant and it makes my allergies nightmarish) and eat only meat from guaranteed humane conditions and things...but sometimes it's totally impractical to always eat healthy, too.

It's understandable for the average American family to just not have time to prepare a healthful meal - both my parents work, and between my twice-a-week choral rehearsals and once-a-week (ish) concert schedule (as well as school and practice time) and my brother's volleyball, weight lifting, tactical, and his schoolwork, it's pretty much impossible for us to consider sitting down to a quiet dinner every evening.

I'm glad there are people out there with simpler lives than mine, I really am. I just wish they could have the affluence that busyness tends to gain.


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Bangel wrote:
I'm vegan.

No Big Macs.
No Kentucky Fried Chicken.
No Hershey's chocolate.
No Pizza Hut.
No ice cream.

*wins at eating right*


Share some of that win with me. D:


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