Vegitarians

[Twitchy]

I don't discriminate and eat both. Vegetables are alive too, picking/eating them is still killing

Yes, but do plants have a brain?

(My favorite argument when people point that out to me is to tell them to disect a plant and find it's brain, spinal cord, and organs, and tell me when they do. XD; )

Anyway, yes, I am a vegetarian, but even though I completely support the vegetarian lifestyle, I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


..and Iggers, Fergus? Did you know you two are psycho?
Edit: And no, I said it because of your scary edit convo.

No, I don't thik plants have a brain...if they did they would have taken over the world by now and killed all the vegitarian.

[Marching Duck]

i dont eat red meat. only pultry and fish. its part of a diet im on.

but i did go through most of my life not eating meat. my best friend growing up was a vegan so i didnt eat much meat.

[Twitchy]

i dont eat red meat. only pultry and fish. its part of a diet im on.

but i did go through most of my life not eating meat. my best friend growing up was a vegan so i didnt eat much meat.

I only eat fish and veggies.

[SpiraLethe]

No, I don't thik plants have a brain...if they did they would have taken over the world by now and killed all the vegitarian.

So that fact that they can't think makes killing them okay and acceptible? Who are you to judge a flower?

And meat isn't murder. Murder is unlawful killing. It's legal to kill certain animals for meat.

[Twitchy]

And meat isn't murder. Murder is unlawful killing. It's legal to kill certain animals for meat.

It is ,urder. Although it is illegal, doesn't make it a good thing. It is still killing, and that is murder!

[SpiraLethe]

And meat isn't murder. Murder is unlawful killing. It's legal to kill certain animals for meat.

It is ,urder. Although it is illegal, doesn't make it a good thing. It is still killing, and that is murder!

Courtesy of dictionary.com:

mur·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mûrdr)
n.
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

[t3h_Fergus]

When lions and tigers eat a zebra, do zebras use that way to reproduce? When humans eat vegetables, do the human waste end up being strewn across the land to cultivate the earth? Does our modern day sewage system support this cycle?

Yeah, how about we don't play the misquote game? kthx.

Lions also savage other animals, get into primitive fights and generally aren't humans.

Rats knaw through steal, why arent' we? Oh yeah, we're capable of being above the elvel of animals, right?

My case was: Eating vegetables is not murder like some people like to accuse because vegetables where made to reproduce through being eaten, animals were not.

What you said was some kind of misquoted half-baked counter argument. Sure, liosn eat zebra's, just cause it doesnt make zebra's reproduce, doesn't mean suddenly animals were meant to be eaten.

D'ya really think Zebra's evolved to be lion food?

LAstly, our sewer system doesn't support the vegetable system, but at least I'm eating something survives by being eaten, instead of otherwise.

so I've we could stop playing the misquote the opponent so I look good game that'd be great ^_^

P.S Lets not be a grammar nut about meat is murder eh? If you can't handle simple english techniques like that I really hope you don't read any books with metaphors. It'll keep you up at night. 'The moon was NOT a fading canle in the night sky, it was a MOON dammit!'

[SpiraLethe]

Yeah, how about we don't play the misquote game? kthx. Lions also savage other animals, get into primitive fights and generally aren't humans.

When did I misquote you? Let's not play the jump to wrong conclusions game. I was merely showing that eating meat is natural.

And humans don't kill each other and get into fights...

Rats knaw through steal, why arent' we? Oh yeah, we're capable of being above the elvel of animals, right?

Two words: non sequitur. We don't have the capability to knaw through steal, or I bet plenty of people would make use of that skill. We have the capability to eat meat and it's not harmful to us in any way. In fact, it tastes good to some people and it can be healthy in certain amounts. Our genetic ancesters were omnivours and so are our closest genetic relatives.

My case was: Eating vegetables is not murder like some people like to accuse because vegetables where made to reproduce through being eaten, animals were not.

What you said was some kind of misquoted half-baked counter argument. Sure, liosn eat zebra's, just cause it doesnt make zebra's reproduce, doesn't mean suddenly animals were meant to be eaten.

D'ya really think Zebra's evolved to be lion food?

And plants evolved to be zebra food? Plenty of plants don't want to be eaten. Why do you think peppers are spicy and roses have thorns? Many plants have chemical defence, though humans and many herbivores have evolved to overcome such obsticals.

LAstly, our sewer system doesn't support the vegetable system, but at least I'm eating something survives by being eaten, instead of otherwise.

so I've we could stop playing the misquote the opponent so I look good game that'd be great ^_^

P.S Lets not be a grammar nut about meat is murder eh? If you can't handle simple english techniques like that I really hope you don't read any books with metaphors. It'll keep you up at night. 'The moon was NOT a fading canle in the night sky, it was a MOON dammit!'

You're eating something that survives by being eaten, but it's not surviving. You're breaking the cycle. You're not helping the plants in any way shape or form by eating it. The only way it's reproducing is through replanting, but that's the same way livestock reproduces, through controlled breeding. Besides, eating animals help control the population so there is enough recourses for everyone. So the real "enemy" isn't eating meat. It's agriculture.

I'm not messing with your metaphors, I was mearly unhappy with inaccuracies. If people don't understand what a term actually means, they often don't fully understand the metaphor.

Again, I'm not saying the only correct diet is an omnivorous diet. I'm saying that there's nothing wrong with eating meat. However, if you choose to not eat meat, there's nothing wrong with that either.

Last edited by SpiraLethe on Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

[t3h_Fergus]

You beautifully danced around my points there.

Bravo.

[SpiraLethe]

Nah. I had you covered pretty well. If it were dancing, I'd be trodding on and not around your points.

*bows*

[Kitten Medli]

i dont eat red meat. only pultry and fish. its part of a diet im on.

but i did go through most of my life not eating meat. my best friend growing up was a vegan so i didnt eat much meat.

I only eat fish and veggies.

What I dont get,arent fish alive too? If you are a Vegetarian for the purpose of animals,I mean..not everyone is for that reason. But I'm not here to make a fight or debate. So I'm gonna leave now before I cause something.

[Jim]

Dont make me crack heads. Play nice.

[Twitchy]

What I dont get,arent fish alive too? If you are a Vegetarian for the purpose of animals,I mean..not everyone is for that reason. But I'm not here to make a fight or debate. So I'm gonna leave now before I cause something.

yes fish are alive, and i would rather not eat them, but my mums makes me eat them, because "I am a growing girl and because you don't get alll the goodnesss out of meat then you should get them out of fish" Also, if I did't eat fish she wouldn't know what to feed me, and it is hard enough for her to cook to diffrent meals, and I don't wnat to make it harder by not eating fish.

if that makes sense

[Atamand]

It's actually not that hard to make different meals. There's a food co-op near my house, and there are all sorts of delicious organic and vegitarian ingredients and heat-and-eat-type meals.

Eh, maybe that's just me speaking. I love rice and beans, so I wasn't bothered by that for the time that I went vegitarian.

[Twitchy]

ohh, rice *drools*