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Private or local?
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I go to a private school now. It's all good...


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I suppose I go to local, since I'm homeschooled. It is local, but maybe not how you mean. o_O

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local schools toughen you up, and thats where you learn to be self sufficiant... enough said...

Yes, thats where you learn to your laundry, wash dishes, cook, drive and how to work in the business world, right? Well I guess some school do offer Driver's Ed.

From what I've seen of most kids who go to public/local is that they've learned how to act dumber then they really are.
And that is probably not going to get you far in the business world.

I'm not saying that public/local schools are bad, just that they don't really make you self-sufficient anymore then other schools would, including home school. The world will make you self-sufficient, and the world is way more then school.


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Strechii wrote:
I suppose I go to local, since I'm homeschooled. It is local, but maybe not how you mean. o_O

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local schools toughen you up, and thats where you learn to be self sufficiant... enough said...

Yes, thats where you learn to your laundry, wash dishes, cook, drive and how to work in the business world, right? Well I guess some school do offer Driver's Ed.

From what I've seen of most kids who go to public/local is that they've learned how to act dumber then they really are.
And that is probably not going to get you far in the business world.

I'm not saying that public/local schools are bad, just that they don't really make you self-sufficient anymore then other schools would, including home school. The world will make you self-sufficient, and the world is way more then school.


Yeah, but school is part of the world. Although I agree that all different kinds of schools make you self-sufficient, I think people who go to public school tend (for some part) to be less sheltered. Private schools are a lot smaller, for one thing, so there's more attention focused on you. If you go to a school of 5,000, like I do, you kind of have to look out for yourself.
Things I've learned from my public schools:
* How to deal with bueracracy/authority figures
* How to motivate myself to deal with work/assignments (I guess that's true for all schools, although mine is among one of the more pressuring ones)
*How to take care of issues for myself
*How to take care of possessions, etc... If you leave something around here for 5 minutes, it's gone
*How to meet new people, and build a social circle

And on the lighter side:
*How not to be distracted - I don't even look up when I hear explosions or the fire alarm any more
*How not to get lost! :P


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I go to public school, or 'local' as it's been put in the poll.

I don't like it, but I don't like school in general, public or private. Yes, it teaches you how to be social/deal with people. And yes, you learn how to be responsible.

But since I learned the above from school already, and learn pretty much nothing else from school that I could learn in less than half the time at home, well....

Let's just say I would LOVE to be homeschooled. ^.^;;


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I went to a private school in Pre-School, but after that every school I went to was public/local.


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I dunno. I'd hate homeschooling or private school.

I think that 'public'/comprehensive schools do toughen you up, so to speak. People who have been homeschooled or educated privately, that I've known, tend to be more sensitive to mor'common' people (I'm pretty common myself). They also, annoyingly, seem to have this view that most people in comprehensive education "act dumber than they really are", or even that we just are dumb. In every school you will have some people brighter than others. The level of education offered is much the same in public/private and comprehensive schools, but of course those schools that are selective will have higher averages, as they choose not to admit the 'dumber' students.

And yes, I do take the view that, in general, people who are educated on the state system....well, I wouldn't say they learn to be self sufficient, but they learn...err, how do I put this... the way it is inside one of these schools is more like it is in the world. When you are in a selective school, whether you have an active social life outside of school or not, you DO spend a lot of your time in a sheltered environment. The only kind of people there are the people the school want there, which doesn't include the obnoxious idiots, if they can help it. You get a wider range of people in a state school, and you learn how to deal with lots of different kinds of people, like you find in life.

It's a sad generalisation that people who are privately educated have a blinkered view of the world, and when they leave school they find it difficult to cope with some people, but it is quite often true, however you defend it. Just not to the extent that some people claim. Yes, education does have some bearing on how you deal with the world. However, so does your social life.

We've had people come to our school who used to be privately educated. Some people moved from boarding schools (the most sheltered kind of private education, really, and the kind most lacking in the deliquent type :P) for X reason. Some wanted to be able to spend more time outside of school. Some jsut moved house. All of them, at first, were a little disconcerted by the atmosphere here, but they've adjusted, and they're a lot more independent than when they first came, and compared to their old schoolfriends.


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It's a public school, but it's not exactly local.


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Yeah, but school is part of the world. Although I agree that all different kinds of schools make you self-sufficient, I think people who go to public school tend (for some part) to be less sheltered. Private schools are a lot smaller, for one thing, so there's more attention focused on you. If you go to a school of 5,000, like I do, you kind of have to look out for yourself.
Things I've learned from my public schools:
* How to deal with bueracracy/authority figures
* How to motivate myself to deal with work/assignments (I guess that's true for all schools, although mine is among one of the more pressuring ones)
*How to take care of issues for myself
*How to take care of possessions, etc... If you leave something around here for 5 minutes, it's gone
*How to meet new people, and build a social circle

And on the lighter side:
*How not to be distracted - I don't even look up when I hear explosions or the fire alarm any more
*How not to get lost! :P

But for most of those things you can learn at privite schools too, and from other things.
Like, I learned how to take care of my things living with one year old. And both my parents work full time so I learned how to take care of issues myself. And I learned how to ride my bicycle places without getting lost.


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People who have been homeschooled or educated privately, that I've known, tend to be more sensitive to mor'common' people (I'm pretty common myself). They also, annoyingly, seem to have this view that most people in comprehensive education "act dumber than they really are", or even that we just are dumb.

I have that view because its what I've seen from kids who go to public school. Just like you have the view that privately education.
I know that not everyone is dumb, or acts dumb, but to me it seems like a lot of kids do. Of course some home schoolers probably act that way too.


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And yes, I do take the view that, in general, people who are educated on the state system....well, I wouldn't say they learn to be self sufficient, but they learn...err, how do I put this... the way it is inside one of these schools is more like it is in the world. When you are in a selective school, whether you have an active social life outside of school or not, you DO spend a lot of your time in a sheltered environment.

That I do agree with. I wasn't implying that public school doesn't toughen you up, just that it doesn't really make you self sufficient.

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It's a sad generalisation that people who are privately educated have a blinkered view of the world, and when they leave school they find it difficult to cope with some people, but it is quite often true, however you defend it. Just not to the extent that some people claim. Yes, education does have some bearing on how you deal with the world. However, so does your social life.

What exactly do you mean by "blinkered?" We aren't blinded from the world.


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Oh, I know that. I don't like to use the term 'you' because I don't know you, as a person.
I just meant that they haven't really had experiences of the (usually 'bad') types of people, as you get in 'public' schools, and they can be a bit shocked when they do meet them.

Gah. I'm in a shocking mood and can't word anything right.


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Oh, I know that. I don't like to use the term 'you' because I don't know you, as a person.
I just meant that they haven't really had experiences of the (usually 'bad') types of people, as you get in 'public' schools, and they can be a bit shocked when they do meet them.

Gah. I'm in a shocking mood and can't word anything right.




The whole lunch time scene? Yeah, and home tutored have the same problem. In my opinion, home toturing seriously hinders social skills if you they don't have much time with people of the same age.


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Igg wrote:
Oh, I know that. I don't like to use the term 'you' because I don't know you, as a person.
I just meant that they haven't really had experiences of the (usually 'bad') types of people, as you get in 'public' schools, and they can be a bit shocked when they do meet them.

Gah. I'm in a shocking mood and can't word anything right.




The whole lunch time scene? Yeah, and home tutored have the same problem. In my opinion, home toturing seriously hinders social skills if you they don't have much time with people of the same age.

*nods*
And the pre-lesson classroom scene. And the during lesson classroom scene. They sat there dumbrfounded for a couple of weeks.


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I attend a local school. My parents want me to go to a privite school, but, they forgot, I guess. I like public schools better. ;)


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I go to a public school... I guess it's pretty local. :D


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Actually, I'm not sure if there are any private schools where I live. I go to a public school.


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Igg wrote:
I dunno. I'd hate homeschooling or private school.

I think that 'public'/comprehensive schools do toughen you up, so to speak. People who have been homeschooled or educated privately, that I've known, tend to be more sensitive to mor'common' people (I'm pretty common myself). They also, annoyingly, seem to have this view that most people in comprehensive education "act dumber than they really are", or even that we just are dumb. In every school you will have some people brighter than others. The level of education offered is much the same in public/private and comprehensive schools, but of course those schools that are selective will have higher averages, as they choose not to admit the 'dumber' students.

And yes, I do take the view that, in general, people who are educated on the state system....well, I wouldn't say they learn to be self sufficient, but they learn...err, how do I put this... the way it is inside one of these schools is more like it is in the world. When you are in a selective school, whether you have an active social life outside of school or not, you DO spend a lot of your time in a sheltered environment. The only kind of people there are the people the school want there, which doesn't include the obnoxious idiots, if they can help it. You get a wider range of people in a state school, and you learn how to deal with lots of different kinds of people, like you find in life.

It's a sad generalisation that people who are privately educated have a blinkered view of the world, and when they leave school they find it difficult to cope with some people, but it is quite often true, however you defend it. Just not to the extent that some people claim. Yes, education does have some bearing on how you deal with the world. However, so does your social life.

We've had people come to our school who used to be privately educated. Some people moved from boarding schools (the most sheltered kind of private education, really, and the kind most lacking in the deliquent type :P) for X reason. Some wanted to be able to spend more time outside of school. Some jsut moved house. All of them, at first, were a little disconcerted by the atmosphere here, but they've adjusted, and they're a lot more independent than when they first came, and compared to their old schoolfriends.


As a private school person myself I can say that private schools contain alot of bullying (mainly verbal), people who go to private schools are just as social as anyone else (except me), and the main product of a private school is sexism and racism...


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