Two Tough Questions

Ixistant · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:12 pm

To all the moderating staff, I apologise. It was never my intent for this to become a religious discussion. It was aimed at telling people to not judge things and people on incomplete information. Once again I apologise.

robot · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:18 pm

I've seen that before. I never paid it any mind really. Although, I could figure out who the people were by reading the descriptions. I suppose that's what I get for having a "crazy" history teacher in high school. I learned on the interesting less known facts about people. ;P Some thought provoking things like this are just lost on me.

Paul · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:31 pm

I already saw this. I didn't remember the actual names, but I did know the general gist of it.

Stijn · **Posts:** 696 **Joined:** Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:00 am

By looking at those facts, I guess Hitler could have become a great man. (He did, just in a bad way.)

His mind was just really messed up.

meowth1982 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:42 pm

Stijn wrote:

By looking at those facts, I guess Hitler could have become a great man. (He did, just in a bad way.)

His mind was just really messed up.

Isn't it believed that he had Syphilis? Cause the final stages of that make you go crazy...

Allie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:19 pm

I heard that before.. it's very thought provoking.

Kuri · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:22 pm

I've seen that before...about Hitler. It makes you think how even the people who seem so great and the best, can do so much either for evil or for good...

Hunter Lupe · **Posts:** 1140 **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2004 1:36 pm

You can't make good decisions based on incomplete information. And maybe we would have had a better world without Beethoven.

Iashi · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:57 pm

Ixistant wrote:

Candidate A:
* Associates with crooked politicians
* Consults with astrologists
* Has had two mistresses
* Chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day

Candidate B:
* Was kicked out of office twice
* Sleeps until noon
* Used opium in college
* Drinks a quart of whisky every evening

Candidate C:
* He is a decorated war hero
* He's a vegetarian
* Doesn't smoke
* Drinks an occasional beer
* Hasn't had any extramarital affairs

The details given here are seriously flawed. There are countless people who would fit the qualities of A, B or C, but are neither FDR, Churchill or Hitler.

Jasujo · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:01 pm

Iashi wrote:

The details given here are seriously flawed. There are countless people who would fit the qualities of A, B or C, but are neither FDR, Churchill or Hitler.

The details were not flawed. It was not a question about if you could guess who they were, it was which qualities you would want in a world leader. It doesn't matter how many people did one or the other, it was which would you want a world leader to do based on those three choices.

I have seen this around before, but I still find it interesting. Thanks for sharing, Ixistant!

Hunter Lupe · **Posts:** 1140 **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2004 1:36 pm

Either way, the details chosen to be presented are tinted order to make you choose the "wrong" one. The text simply neglects to say the positive things about FDR & Churchill, and fails to mention anything bad about Hitler. It's reasonable to call this information flawed, as it is rather incomplete. Based on this text, Hitler would be the natural choice for running any government (as the information is flawed, the conclusions based on that information are also flawed).

Iashi · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:40 pm

Jasujo wrote:

The details were not flawed. It was not a question about if you could guess who they were, it was which qualities you would want in a world leader. It doesn't matter how many people did one or the other, it was which would you want a world leader to do based on those three choices.

Simply because a person picked A doesn't mean they picked FDR, simply because a person picked B doesn't mean they picked Churchill, simply because a person picked C doesn't mean they picked Hitler.

Articfox · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:47 pm

Hunter Lupe wrote:

Either way, the details chosen to be presented are tinted order to make you choose the "wrong" one. The text simply neglects to say the positive things about FDR & Churchill, and fails to mention anything bad about Hitler. It's reasonable to call this information flawed, as it is rather incomplete. Based on this text, Hitler would be the natural choice for running any government (as the information is flawed, the conclusions based on that information are also flawed).

I was about to mention something similair, though quite clever, thats about all it is. It doesn't make anyone better, and I'm pretty sure FDR and Churchhill never killed thousands of innocent people...the answers are alreday made to make you pick the wrong one, you could name the bad and good qualities of anyone, doesn't excactly make them a good person though.

SpiraLethe · **Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:59 pm

The faulty and incomplete information was the entire point of those questions. It was suppose to show you the consequences of judging someone based on incomplete information. Either that or I'm making the questions smarter than they are meant to be. That is, they tried to illustrate some profound point, but backfired when they fell victim to the very problems they were attempting to address.

cap · **Posts:** 909 **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2004 4:02 am

I voted for hitler? That's fine by me. He got his hatred for an ethic group through stress (his mom's death) and his own inadequecy. Were he born again today I doubt he'd be such a bad person.

And I guessed I killed a famous musicial *shrugs*

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