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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:43 am 
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I would consider PS3 if the price is right they redesign the controller and exterior.... but most importantly they need to provide a proper online service able to rival the Xbox or X360 cos without that then the graphics mean little to me.
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All I'm going to say is that the Xbox 360 is looking to be an excellent console, but there are some things that will make me not buy it.

a) I'm going to buy a PS3, I can't afford 2 Next-Gen Consoles.
b) I already have PS2 games, so I would want a PS3 to play my PS1 and PS2 games, and of course the PS3 games.
c) I hate the Xbox Controller.
d) And finally, I love all of Sony's First-Party Games. I really want the new ones or the next-gen ones.

There ya go, thats my opinion.


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I don't want a super computer I want a gaming console!


XBox is well-known for being the super-computer of the current generation systems...

Just as Michael said, while the XBox is shaping up to be a great system, there are reasons why I won't buy it. First of all, I'm only buying one next-generation system in the near future, and the PS3 is at the top of that list. If the Revolution does exactly what the Gamecube did (go way down in price, lower than both Sony and Microsoft), then I'll probably end up buying that as well. But for now, I'm only saving up for one system. Secondly, the original XBox just didn't seem to offer much. There were too many games that revolved around online play (which I have never been a fan of). With a lack of good single player and two player games, that really lowered the fun-factor, meaning it was thrown and left to dust after only a few months of use. If you're going to make a system, and online play just has to be a big part of it, at least try and even out the fun offline to online game ratio instead of almost forcing you to get XBox live just to have fun with a system that you bought "to have fun with". From the PS/N64 times up to now, I've never been disappointed by the game selection that the Playstation line has had to offer. I just feel that in this last generation of systems, both XBox and Gamecube, while still having their own great and classic games, had very few of these "classic" games. If I'm going to pay so much for a system, you better bet that I'm going to get one that offers me more, in the way of games (not flashy add-ons). As for the new PS3 controller, a majority of the people (as shown by many polls) hate it, but then again, both Microsoft (XBox) and Nintendo (N64) went through their horrible controller design phases as well, and many people ended up shutting up about them when they were actually released (save the whole "big controller" arguement that everyone just has to use for the XBox...even though the problem's been corrected). The way I see it is that only Sony is actually combining great graphics with great selection and great games (more that likely). Microsoft seems to be involved too much into online play, and Nintendo is too involved into making things "original" and "smaller" to fit my tastes.


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I was making a simple statement that I was following Sony complete fan-boy style. :P

Nah, I'll honest here and I'll say that Xbox 360 will be something great if they pull it off. Especially the fact that you can play against WinXP users or something like that.

But, Sony is also introducing Sony Online, which I heard will be cheaper than Live, and offer more features. I doubt the more features part, but I'm pretty sure it will be cheaper. Oh and, PS3 will use Blu-Ray which holds 200 gigabytes. The 360 uses HD-DVD which holds a meagre 40 gigabytes.

Now, I heard rumours about the Nintendo R. Soething about touch sensitive controllers and voice recognition. Nintendo are planning something huge here, and I reckon gamers everywhere should be ready for one heck of a shock.



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TOKYO / LAS VEGAS, May 10, 2005 – Toshiba Corporation today announced development of a triple-layer HD DVD-ROM (read-only) disc with a data capacity of 45 gigabytes


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How much data can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?

A single-layer disc can fit 23.3GB, 25GB or 27GB.
A dual-layer disc can fit 46.6GB, 50GB or 54GB.


According to these, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray hold similar amounts of data, in various ways. The main difference between amounts of storage will be method of production.

As in today's techno world, things are very different without everyone knowing about it. Sure, everyone knows CD-Rs and CD-RWs. But there is also Archaivable media, which lasts longer, due to a thicker coating on the bottom of the disk. But, there is even Archaivable CDRW technology out there, and that is absurdly expensive. I will give your "200GB" this...

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To ensure that the Blu-ray Disc format is easily extendable (future-proof) it also includes support for multi-layer discs, which should allow the storage capacity to be increased to 100GB-200GB (25GB per layer) in the future simply by adding more layers to the discs.


So yeah, in the distant future, we may have discs holding 200GB of data, but at that point, they will also be absurdly expensive. For the purpose of games both today and in the near future (3-6 years) the will be NO need whatsoever for a disc like that, and even if there was, imagine the costs. DVD disc games cost $50 new now. Imagine the costs of a brand new technology, on a new system. The projected costs for Next-Gen games is already $60 apiece. If you start using discs with triple the best storage available now, when will the price raises end? Will anyone ever pay $75 - $100 just to get Halo, Halo2, Halo 2 map pack, and Halo 3 on one disc? Sure, people with more money than brains may jump for that, but it simply isnt economical. Games and how far they advance will be determined by how much people want to pay for them, and the public will let the companies know when they have crossed the line.

Seems like a long way to go on that tangent, but hey, whatever ;)

I just wanted to say that you should do a little research before trying to slam another company/system. Just because Blu-Ray has the possibilites, and the potential for that amount ofs torage, does not mean we will EVER see discs that big used in commercialgame production.


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I'll admit it. The 360 is kinda starting to grow on me. Maybe it's just my hate of Sony. I'm not sure. I might pick up a 360 eventually. The price is killing me right now though. Heck, gamestop is offering a bundle that is $2000! TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS! Man, anyone that buys that is crazy. Still, the 360 is looking a lot better than the PS3 right now.


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I actully think Xbox 360 will be the top council, it has had so much publicity it is unreal. I still think they should of sticked with the name Xbox 2.

Though I'm PS3 all the way man.


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Microsoft have an unreal advertising department, that's what it is. They usually appeal more to the Western countires because they seem closer to home than Japanese products. That, and the fact that all the casual gamers seem to be leaning more to Xbox, because of the fact that it manages to sponsor itself in music and movie events. It makes itself look cooler, purely because it's aligned with celebrities.

And me, I hate this kind of advertising, and I hate being one to follow the crowd wherever they go. And so far, that's what Microsoft are doing. They're associating the 360 with the new and cool thing, that all celebrities play 24/7, which you would look like a idiot for not playing. That's why, out of morals, I will never buy an Xbox, or an Xbox 360. If I win one in a competition, goodie joy, but I'll never buy one.

I should buy myself a Nintendo, but, well... all of my favourite games are on the Sony. So it's a choice between Revolution or PS3, and I'm leaning closer to PS3 than anything else right about now.


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The PS3 is actually more powerful than the Xbox 360. PS3 is 35 times more powerful than PS2 and two times more powerful than the Xbox 360. It's filled with hardware and addons(around 6 USB ports, Ethernet, Blu-Ray Compatibility, etc.) that make this system worth anticipating. The only cons of this are most gamers won't use half of the things it comes with, and it's way overpriced (estimating at $400 at release).

I'll still be buying the PS3, because I'm a Playstation fanboy and one of the things that the PS3 has that the Xbox lacks is big exclusive franchise games. I'm talking about the Final Fantasy Series, Grand Theft Auto (PS exclusive until recently), and the soon-to-be released Soul Calibur III among many others as mentioned before in this thread. The only games I can think of buying Xbox/Xbox 360 for is Halo. Maybe Stubbs the Zombie and that's about it. There's no other good exclusive Xbox games there. There might be a good game but it can be available for all consoles, so there's no point in getting it for that one game.

I also like what Nintendo's doing. They're keeping quite and mysteriously hinting us about the Revolution. The controller is still a mystery which keeps us guessing. The other good thing about Revolution is that it's made for fun, not a super media home entertainment center. There's no point in having a $350~ system if there's no fun games for it. People would rather pay money for a system and games that have realistic water effects and to see a person bounce around a whole level just like in real-life, than get a fun game. I also like how you can download the old Nintendo games for your Revolution, if I get it (which I doubt) I'll definitely get some classic SNES and NES games.

Out of these 3 systems I'll most likely be getting the PS3.


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The PS3 is actually more powerful than the Xbox 360. PS3 is 35 times more powerful than PS2 and two times more powerful than the Xbox 360.


Did you actually believe Sony when they said that? Need I pull out the "Toy Story" quote?


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Microsoft have an unreal advertising department, that's what it is. They usually appeal more to the Western countires because they seem closer to home than Japanese products. That, and the fact that all the casual gamers seem to be leaning more to Xbox, because of the fact that it manages to sponsor itself in music and movie events. It makes itself look cooler, purely because it's aligned with celebrities.

And me, I hate this kind of advertising, and I hate being one to follow the crowd wherever they go. And so far, that's what Microsoft are doing. They're associating the 360 with the new and cool thing, that all celebrities play 24/7, which you would look like a idiot for not playing. That's why, out of morals, I will never buy an Xbox, or an Xbox 360. If I win one in a competition, goodie joy, but I'll never buy one.


I agree, but I won't take it any further than saying that the years of gaming are priceless when everyone can call them self the "1337 G4M3R!" because they are all the best at Halo.


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The PS3 is actually more powerful than the Xbox 360. PS3 is 35 times more powerful than PS2 and two times more powerful than the Xbox 360.


Did you actually believe Sony when they said that? Need I pull out the "Toy Story" quote?


Personally, I don't just believe it, I know it. 360 will be good, true. Revolution will be good, true. But the PS3 itself will be the more powerful console. It's coming out after the 360, meaning that unless Microsoft can pull out something truely unbelievably and ahead of the times, Sony will have the upperhand technology-wise (role reversal anyone?).

Then there's the rumours that developers are saying that the PS3 is a lot easier to develop games for than the 360 (role reversal again?). So there's a good chance devs will be choosing PS3 over 360.

Face it, even some of the most die hard Xbox fans are admitting that the PS3 will be more powerful. The tech-people from gaming and computers magazines wordwide are admitting that ther PS3 is more powerful than the 360. My friend at school will buy a PS3 so that he can run Linux off it, because he says it's a better system to use than a PC! A PC!.

The Revolution is an unknown, but judging by Nintendo's track record, it's safe to assume that it'll be the least 'powerful' of the three (I may be wrong, but I doubt it).

So tech wise: PS3 > 360 > Rev


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I agree, but I won't take it any further than saying that the years of gaming are priceless when everyone can call them self the "1337 G4M3R!" because they are all the best at Halo.


Well, I'll give Microsoft the credit of admitting that Halo is a pretty good game. And Halo 2. But I don't find much else that's really that awe-inspiring or attention-grabbing.

But yeah, the evils of advertising. Fear it.


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To those of you using "gamplay" to argue that the PS3 will be better than the new Xbox.


lol


You do realize that good gameplay is in the eye of the beholder? You might think FF is a game of the gods, yet I think it's the most boring and unoriginal game ever. ;)

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Too bad a good computer will always be superior to the consoles.


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Ummm... announcements and specs aside, this whole topic is based on opinions.

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Too bad a good computer will always be superior to the consoles.


It depends on your what you're calling superior. Either way, I don't think anything will always be superior.


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Twisted Sanity wrote:
rbpnmn wrote:
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The PS3 is actually more powerful than the Xbox 360. PS3 is 35 times more powerful than PS2 and two times more powerful than the Xbox 360.


Did you actually believe Sony when they said that? Need I pull out the "Toy Story" quote?


Personally, I don't just believe it, I know it. 360 will be good, true. Revolution will be good, true. But the PS3 itself will be the more powerful console. It's coming out after the 360, meaning that unless Microsoft can pull out something truely unbelievably and ahead of the times, Sony will have the upperhand technology-wise (role reversal anyone?).

Then there's the rumours that developers are saying that the PS3 is a lot easier to develop games for than the 360 (role reversal again?). So there's a good chance devs will be choosing PS3 over 360.

Face it, even some of the most die hard Xbox fans are admitting that the PS3 will be more powerful. The tech-people from gaming and computers magazines wordwide are admitting that ther PS3 is more powerful than the 360. My friend at school will buy a PS3 so that he can run Linux off it, because he says it's a better system to use than a PC! A PC!.

The Revolution is an unknown, but judging by Nintendo's track record, it's safe to assume that it'll be the least 'powerful' of the three (I may be wrong, but I doubt it).

So tech wise: PS3 > 360 > Rev


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I agree, but I won't take it any further than saying that the years of gaming are priceless when everyone can call them self the "1337 G4M3R!" because they are all the best at Halo.


Well, I'll give Microsoft the credit of admitting that Halo is a pretty good game. And Halo 2. But I don't find much else that's really that awe-inspiring or attention-grabbing.

But yeah, the evils of advertising. Fear it.

Number 1: PS3 is not the strongest in all areas. http://hardware.gamespot.com/Sony-PlayS ... 5015-x-4-4

Number 2: I was never saying that the PS3 wouldn't be strong but let's look at the facts here. The graphics core clock speed for the PS2 was 150mhz. For PS3, it's 550mhz. The processor clock speed for the PS2 was 300mhz. For PS3, it's 3.2ghz. Neither of those are 35 times more powerful. It will be strong but nowhere near 35 times stronger. If you believe that, you will be severely disappointed.


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Pheesh you guys are having a really good civil argument :D Niceone!

Anyway, I'm a big xbox fan. Not that big, but the only game I play regularly at the moment is Halo over xbox live, and I dont care what anyone else says its a wonderful first person shooter which even all the 8 year old kids over xbox live can deter me away from.

I have a few beefs about the xbox 360, the name for one. Jeez thats a crap name. Plus the release date in australia is around March 2006, which is just FREAING RIDICULOUS! And thats going to be TERRIBLE for any xbox live playing I want to do during those months. I hate the way that some large gaming companies dont regard australia as a blockbuster release date. I just hope ps3 classifies australia as a part of the *world* in their *worldwide* release date!

I dont think Xbox is making a very wise decision to rush their release date, because it will penultimately mean that for a long time the ps3 will be far better than the xbox, unless quite soon after the ps3 release a NEW xbox console comes out. That would be the worst thing ever. I hope they dont do that. Anyway, the xbox is going to be the best console ont he market for atleast a year, which means alot of people will buy that and the console will be successful in sales terms. But if XBOX really want to release a sucessful console they are doing the wrong thing.

In terms of which to buy, I plan on buying both. So far the xbox 360 does look like a reasonable console to be released, and will far surpass my computer in power for along time. The ps3 does look like its going to be more powerful, but for me the better games aren't always the ones with beautiful graphics. GTA only needs a big disk!

(i'm sorry I probably just repeated whatever anyone else is saying, but I wanted to state my side of everything and try and get in on this "discussion" again ^_^)


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