Haunted Woods Plot Discussion (Split #11)

[Daze]

I know many versions of doing the vines has been posted. But I am going to add mine, as it doesn't require you to read the messages but only know what is the cliff.

1. When you have the 30 vines - find your clearing.
2. Remove all vines except for the first 6 vines (Icky)
3. Click on the clearing if you get a message to say the vine is strong but too short you are at the cliff (Cliff).

Keep those 6 vines and add 1 of the next sort. (Rotting). Click on the clearing and see if you get the cliff.

4. If you get the cliff, that vine is good and you add 1 more vine from the same variety. Keep doing this until you no longer get the cliff.

5. If you click the clearing and you don't get the cliff but the message that the vine isn't strong enough, remove the last vine.
That is all you will need of that particular vine variety.

6. Move on to the next variety (Crumbling) and once again, add 1 vine and check it. If you get the cliff, it is good, so add another 1. If you don't get the cliff - remove it and it means you don't need any of that variety.

7. Move on through the rest of the vines in this order.


Basically you start of with 6 of the same sort of vine and add 1 at a time until it is long enough.

Example: For mine

I used the first 6 (Icky) but I didn't get the cliff.
I removed all 6 and added 6 Rotting, I got the cliff
I added 1 Crumbling at a time, I used all 6.
I kept all them in my inventory and added 1 Gross vine, when I got upto 3 Gross vines, my vine was long enough.

It didn't take me very long at all, with this method.

My vines were: 06630.

Last edited by Daze on Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

[manatemuse]

I must thank everyone for all the ideas about vines.. I needed them. I started on the vines yesterday evening worked 4 hours.. went to sleep, got up at 3 worked 4 more hours... and then started again this evening.. I have just finished after 2.5 hours.. the last 40 minutes were meepits... so much easier for me than the vines.

I tried many things suggested. The thing that really worked for me:
1 gather all the vines.
2 sort them in piles on the clearing ground.
3 pick up enought of any vine to get past the "what do you plan on doing for so few vine" note the message. remove the vine
4 now test one of each vine noting messages. this way I found my strong vines.

I ended up with the following vine messages

1 gilly... weak
2 sophie... medium
3 gilly... weak
4 sophi/bruno strong
5 sophie... medium
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Finally, I kept adding the strongest one at a time, I kept going off the cliff and adding untill I got the message it was the perfect lenght..
at that message I had to refresh to get to the deep woods...

If this helps anyone... I am grateful...

[americangirl101]

Hey I can't find the woods when I go to the shack. All I see is Sophie saying get away and at the bottom are the same buttons that say:
"Flee for your life!"
"Return to Neovia"
"Return to the Haunted Woods"

Can someone help me?

[Agriff]

Daze I have just the 6 icky vines in my inventory but the only message I've managed to get it the one saying that only sophie could go and bruno would snap it, it needs to be stronger. That and the one asking what im gonna do with so few vines
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[TiCup]

I gotta say, I just love the art for Sophie and the way she's done in the comic. If only there wasn't the blasted Gilly....

I love Sophie more and more with each chapter. I loved her when Sophie's Stew came out, but now she's got a special place in my heart. She rules hardcore.

And I want to smack Gilly even more. Does she ever think before she opens her fool mouth? *bops her*

[Daze]

Daze I have just the 6 icky vines in my inventory but the only message I've managed to get it the one saying that only sophie could go and bruno would snap it, it needs to be stronger. That and the one asking what im gonna do with so few vines

That means you don't need any of the icky vines (see my example, I didn't need any either).

You only keep vines if you get to the cliff.

[orangehairedgurl]

I would agree, I feel like smacking Gilly now, too.

And Sophie is really unfolding before our very eyes, I do think she gets cooler as the plot goes along. You discover something about her in every new chapter! I was an Ilere fan, but now I'm totally rooting for Sophie.

I'd still like more and better images of Ilere, though.

[anjuna]

That is sorta what I been trying to say this whole time. If you need 0 of any one type, it makes no sense to start trying with "6 of one type" at a time. Start with none of all, and work up. At the very worst you might have to subtract at the end, but adding as you go should work for most.

I first needed 5 of the first kind before my message changed. In the end I had to go back through but luckily only needed 1 more Icky. Some people might need 0 Icky so this method might not help some people.

I had the idea that some with odd combinations of like 0-3-4-6-5 might just work right to left instead of left to right.

Final combo 6-4-0-0-6 but remember I only needed 5-4-0-0-6 then had to go back from my left to right and add 1 more Icky. It worked but for some with 0 first it might not. When I tried the "other method" I randomly picked to start with 6 of the Crumbling first which got me nowhere in a very long time. With my luck I might have chosen the next vine to my right, also needing none, and furthered my frustrations. I still say starting with zero of all and adding is best.

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[Daze]

That is sorta what I been trying to say this whole time. If you need 0 of any one type, it makes no sense to start trying with "6 of one type" at a time. Start with none of all, and work up. At the very worst you might have to subtract at the end, but adding as you go should work for most.

I first needed 5 of the first kind before my message changed. In the end I had to go back through but luckily only needed 1 more Icky. Some people might need 0 Icky so this method might not help some people.

I had the idea that some with odd combinations of like 0-3-5-6-5 might just work right to left instead of left to right.

Final combo 6-4-0-0-6 but remember I only needed 5-4-0-0-6 then had to go back from my right to left, adding one. In my case adding 6 of the first one might have worked, but for some with 0 first it might not. I happened to choose the "other method" with 6 of the Crumbling first which would have gotten me nowhere in a very long time. With my luck I might have chosen the next vine to my right, also needing none, and furthered my frustrations. I still say starting with zero of all and adding is best.

Trying to read through that I got lost (it isn't your fault), I just find it awkward to move back and forwards through the vines.

Even though I didn't need any Icky vines, at least I knew that (later I wasnt' going back to re-check).

The way I describe you know straight away if you need any of that sort. Once you have stopped using that vine, you can move on and know you don't need anymore of it.

You only have to work left to right through the vines once and you are finished.

[Pink]

I love Sophie more and more with each chapter. I loved her when Sophie's Stew came out, but now she's got a special place in my heart. She rules hardcore.

And I want to smack Gilly even more. Does she ever think before she opens her fool mouth? *bops her*

...I wonder if we're supposed to dislike Gilly or if that was an unintended consequence of making the adventurer yet another Usul, and an annoying one at that...I do Sophie and I think Ilere is da bomb...

[anjuna]

Yeah I mixed up and clarified my earlier post while you posted, sorry. Odd that you had 0 Icky but started with 6 first?

Seems you worked back and forth more than I did. It only took me one try with my OWN method. But I did have to add an extra icky upon starting a second 'one vine at a time, left to right' if you read the math part. That was also my original premise, after one run you should be done. I only needed one more of one kind.

In general I am just saying, pick one direction and stick with it.

00000
10000
20000
ok maybe that is all the icky you need
21000
22000
23000
see my pattern of suggestion?
23100
23200
23300
checking inbetween EACH vine placed for strength OR length, or NOT

if it is NEITHER stronger nor longer, put that weak short vine back ..

Sorry, I've exhausted the vine topic. I hope you all find your way!

EDIT: Daze, my method also uses the messages to tell if you need a type or not. What else would one go by? In fact seems like we did very similar, excepting the starting with "6 of one" first. Also, as mentioned before, one may get a message change at 5 of a particular type vine but need 3 at the end (hence, subtracting).

[Daze]

Yeah I mixed up and clarified my earlier post while you posted, sorry.

Seems you worked back and forth more than I did.

I am not too sure what you mean. In my method (posted above) it is a process of elimination - moving left to right through the vines.

As Icky are the first vines in the inventory - I removed all the other's but left them there. I clicked the clearing but didn't get the cliff, so I took them out.

The next set is Rotting, so I put all 6 of them in, clicked clearing - got the cliff.

I added 1 Crumbing Vine at a time (checking after every vine).

I only added 3 and it was the right length.

I didn't move back - only forwards.

Daze, my method also uses the messages to tell if you need a type or not. What else would one go by?

I didn't actually pay any attention (I didn't even know there where different messages) to the messages.

As soon as I saw I was at the cliff, I kept my vines and added 1 more.

If I didn't get the cliff, I removed the last vine and started on a different variety.

I never once paid any attention to what the message said.

But you are right - there are a few different ways of working out the vines and each person needs to find the way that works for them.

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[cslewislover]

I shouldn't be working on this anymore tonight, ugh! But I just wanted to say that people seem to be saying that you get a messages that include comments about length. I haven't gotten one of those yet

Anjuna, I got your message and will try it backwards; although I really should get off of the computer!

[Mongrel]

I shouldn't be working on this anymore tonight, ugh! But I just wanted to say that people seem to be saying that you get a messages that include comments about length. I haven't gotten one of those yet

I don't think you'll get comments about length until you get the strength right. I was very lucky--using all of the first type of vine got me a "supports all three's weight at once" and I could just add vines until I got a note that the rope was weakening. That's the advantage of using the trying 6 of a kind at once method.

[anjuna]

Yeah Daze I see that you just did an extra step at least. That's all. Your method is fine but just longer than mine.

For instance, your method would not be most efficient for someone with say 0-4-6-4-0 simply because, even if left to right or right to left, ADDING from the ground up will be more predictably certain than subtracting.

If you needed no Icky and started with all 6, then tossed them (what all at once? instead of trying 5, then 4, then 3, then 2, then 1, then none for a message change) you might have saved yourself time OR NOT (since you just so happened to have a 0 instead of 6, sort of went the same for me, but as you can see from my example of my first mistake, 'randomly' (or for that matter orderly, extreme left or right foremost) you are still better off checking from zero going to 6, not from 6 to zero. I may be wrong but I think that is the only way you can get the strength vs. length logical messages. And cslewislover, if you haven't gotten a length message yet, load a bunch of the last two types and see if any change. If not, I hate to admit it but it is as I suspected 'random' (the icky may not be strongest for us all) and you may need to use a systematic logical approach.

EDIT: Moongewl, I suspect this may be true too, first strength. Find a vine type that does it, BUT only adding one at a time. If you start with all six even of the strength-iest vine, but in the end need ANY LESS THAN SIX, you would still be better off adding from zero up. I guess it is just my stubborn opinion now. Or I'd rather just add than subtract, I guess.