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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:34 am 
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There seem to be a lot of topics about getting frozen. So I figure we can pool our knowledge together and come up with a bunch of suggestions on how to avoid getting frozed. I'm at 41 months currently, coming up at 42, and have never had an incident, other than warnings from my own stupid mistakes on the neoboards. So here goes.

•First and foremost, you do not want to draw any unnecessary attention to yourself. You want as few people viewing your userlookup/shop/gallery/whatever as possible.

Never use the Neoboards. Ever. Doesn't matter what you're excuse is, don't do it. Not even for shop ads or helping others.

•Don't reveal your username anywhere other than Neopets. For PPT, erase your username/pet names in screenies, don't link to your user lookup, don't post your username, nothing.

•Don't join/run a guild. It's the same concept as the Neoboards, it gets your username out in public and increases views of your userlookup.

•Don't hog the highest places on the high score tables month after month. Get the first place trophy, then back your score down so you get max np or whatever each time, but without going for first place. You'll have your trophy and your high score list will state your high score if you ever feel like other people are challenging your competance at the game.

•If you have an avatar pet or petpet, don't link to your pet's page.

•Reject all neofriend requests except those from personal friends.

•Reject all two player challenges except those from personal friends.

•If you're really good at a game and have written a guide, submit it to a help site like PPT and use a name other than your Neopets username.

•Don't use the trading post as a gallery. 1, TNT said not to do it, so it's freezable; 2, it's a pain for others; 3, it makes you stand out.

•If you have a rare item gallery in your shop, don't make the prices weird (123321, 123456, 100001, etc.). A 100000 is much more boring than a 123321 and will probably get less views.

•Block all neomails. It saves you having to deal with stupid people. If your friends want to talk to you, have them e-mail you instead, e-mail is much better than neomail anyways.

•If you really don't want to take any risks, don't do a gallery at all.

•Don't make your avatar an expensive avatar. When people lookup your username and see the MSPP - Evil avatar, they're going to think you're rich automatically, even if you don't have the card.

That's about all I can think of.


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That list seems a bit too paranoid.. I mean, you shouldn't, for example, not have a gallery or join a fun guild just because you're afraid of getting frozen. You might as well not enter any contest, period, in case you win and your username is announced.

And userlookups are there to be viewed by other players... as are galleries!


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I find it a bit sad that you basically can't have any interaction whatsoever with anyone AT ALL to avoid getting frozen.

Here's another tip: Just don't play Neopets, that'll prevent getting frozen. ;P

For a real tip, don't try getting passed the filters using characters that can take the place of letters. That doesn't tend to work out well. ^^;


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:00 am 
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Sunnie wrote:
I find it a bit sad that you basically can't have any interaction whatsoever with anyone AT ALL to avoid getting frozen.


That's why there's PPT. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Random tips to avoid getting frozen.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:04 am 
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There seem to be a lot of topics about getting frozen. So I figure we can pool our knowledge together and come up with a bunch of suggestions on how to avoid getting frozed. I'm at 41 months currently, coming up at 42, and have never had an incident, other than warnings from my own stupid mistakes on the neoboards. So here goes.

•First and foremost, you do not want to draw any unnecessary attention to yourself. You want as few people viewing your userlookup/shop/gallery/whatever as possible.

Never use the Neoboards. Ever. Doesn't matter what you're excuse is, don't do it. Not even for shop ads or helping others.

•Don't reveal your username anywhere other than Neopets. For PPT, erase your username/pet names in screenies, don't link to your user lookup, don't post your username, nothing.

•Don't join/run a guild. It's the same concept as the Neoboards, it gets your username out in public and increases views of your userlookup.

•If you have an avatar pet or petpet, don't link to your pet's page.

•Reject all neofriend requests except those from personal friends.

•Reject all two player challenges except those from personal friends.

•If you're really good at a game and have written a guide, submit it to a help site like PPT and use a name other than your Neopets username.

•Don't use the trading post as a gallery. 1, TNT said not to do it, so it's freezable; 2, it's a pain for others; 3, it makes you stand out.

•If you have a rare item gallery in your shop, don't make the prices weird (123321, 123456, 100001, etc.). A 100000 is much more boring than a 123321 and will probably get less views.

•Block all neomails. It saves you having to deal with stupid people. If your friends want to talk to you, have them e-mail you instead, e-mail is much better than neomail anyways.

•If you really don't want to take any risks, don't do a gallery at all.

•Don't make your avatar an expensive avatar. When people lookup your username and see the MSPP - Evil avatar, they're going to think you're rich automatically, even if you don't have the card.

That's about all I can think of.




:cry: :cry:

I break a lot of rules on those tips..I don't want to be frozen..:(

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•First and foremost, you do not want to draw any unnecessary attention to yourself. You want as few people viewing your userlookup/shop/gallery/whatever as possible.

Umm...I run a petpage, and I enjoy doing it to help other Neopians..


Never use the Neoboards. Ever. Doesn't matter what you're excuse is, don't do it. Not even for shop ads or helping others.

The NeoBoards are almost part of my Neopian life! I go there everyday I'm online, and that's a lotta days.

•Don't reveal your username anywhere other than Neopets. For PPT, erase your username/pet names in screenies, don't link to your user lookup, don't post your username, nothing.

O_O
Look at my username on PPT
Look at my username on Neopets

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•Don't hog the highest places on the high score tables month after month. Get the first place trophy, then back your score down so you get max np or whatever each time, but without going for first place. You'll have your trophy and your high score list will state your high score if you ever feel like other people are challenging your competance at the game.


Well that's easy, I'm not on the lists a lot :P

•Don't join/run a guild. It's the same concept as the Neoboards, it gets your username out in public and increases views of your userlookup.

No way! I could never quit my guild! :o

•Reject all neofriend requests except those from personal friends.

Too late.

•Reject all two player challenges except those from personal friends.

Ehh..it depends if my scores are higher or lower than theirs

•If you're really good at a game and have written a guide, submit it to a help site like PPT and use a name other than your Neopets username.

Also too late


•Don't use the trading post as a gallery. 1, TNT said not to do it, so it's freezable; 2, it's a pain for others; 3, it makes you stand out.

That's the first thing that I don't do on this list

•If you have a rare item gallery in your shop, don't make the prices weird (123321, 123456, 100001, etc.). A 100000 is much more boring than a 123321 and will probably get less views.

I like making prices interesting :cry:

•Block all neomails. It saves you having to deal with stupid people. If your friends want to talk to you, have them e-mail you instead, e-mail is much better than neomail anyways.

That's like blocking all forms of communication! Think about it if humans couldn't TALK!


•If you really don't want to take any risks, don't do a gallery at all.

I like my Kougra Gallery!


•Don't make your avatar an expensive avatar. When people lookup your username and see the MSPP - Evil avatar, they're going to think you're rich automatically, even if you don't have the card.

Well I'm not rich O_O so that's easy

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Just because I do those things doesn't mean that I want to get a frozen account!

Because I definitely don't.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:26 am 
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Wow, very extreme. The steps really aren't necessary, I'm at 42 months and I've NEVER even gotten so much as a warning. I post on the neoboards occasionally, I've told my sn to quite a few people, I'm in a guild, I've been in first place in a high score table, I occasionally battle strangers, I have 2 avatar pets, I have a gallery, I accept all neomails, and my avatar is retired. I think it's just a matter of using your discretion. If you block out half the things site has to offer, there's really no point in playing. It's boring.

Edit: This thread reminds me of this guy's list. Lol.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:37 am 
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You might as well not play Neopets at all then, if you're that paranoid.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:55 am 
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I agree, sorry to say it but some of the rules are a little bit stupid... you are allowed to have 5 accounts, but you arent allowed to play games and use the whells etc on more than 1, so just do that, if you dont play on the others you're fine. I have the lab on my extras and I shop wiz snipe...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:01 am 
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•Don't make your avatar an expensive avatar. When people lookup your username and see the MSPP - Evil avatar, they're going to think you're rich automatically, even if you don't have the card.


But actually, that does work. :roll:

I've known people who got frozen ...technically because they were caught using the MSPP and FQD avatars on the boards, by some beggars who obviously got jealous, I guess. So they decided to mass-report the people with the MSPP and FQD avatars, and strangely enough, they got frozen.

Someone did get their account back, while someone still hasn't ...


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lol. Is this a joke? Because seriously the tasks on that list just eliminate whatever fun was left in neopets :roll:

honestly people come on for their reasons, beit being a leader of a wonderful guild ( :hug: ), a battler, an HC'er, JWC'er, or WHATEVERC'er, or something along those lines...having a bit of fun always involves taking risks. Sure we don't want our accounts frozen, but what's the point if you're barely playing?

Just don't do anything against the rules like going against filters, having contests and giveaways in your guild, having applications for pet adoptions, that sorta thing...because then you won't have a reason to be frozen, and you'll have a better case for getting your account back (though I bet that doesn't happen in 90% of cases, innocent or not).

I've gone 4 years without so much as a warning, and I hang out at chats and am sort of prominent in the guild scene...what I'm trying to say is, people know that I exist, and I probably have my enemies too...but so far it's been without incident. Just try to live a little! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Random tips to avoid getting frozen.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:40 am 
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_B4U_ wrote:
There seem to be a lot of topics about getting frozen. So I figure we can pool our knowledge together and come up with a bunch of suggestions on how to avoid getting frozed. I'm at 41 months currently, coming up at 42, and have never had an incident, other than warnings from my own stupid mistakes on the neoboards. So here goes.

•First and foremost, you do not want to draw any unnecessary attention to yourself. You want as few people viewing your userlookup/shop/gallery/whatever as possible.

Never use the Neoboards. Ever. Doesn't matter what you're excuse is, don't do it. Not even for shop ads or helping others.

•Don't reveal your username anywhere other than Neopets. For PPT, erase your username/pet names in screenies, don't link to your user lookup, don't post your username, nothing.

•Don't join/run a guild. It's the same concept as the Neoboards, it gets your username out in public and increases views of your userlookup.

•Don't hog the highest places on the high score tables month after month. Get the first place trophy, then back your score down so you get max np or whatever each time, but without going for first place. You'll have your trophy and your high score list will state your high score if you ever feel like other people are challenging your competance at the game.

•If you have an avatar pet or petpet, don't link to your pet's page.

•Reject all neofriend requests except those from personal friends.

•Reject all two player challenges except those from personal friends.

•If you're really good at a game and have written a guide, submit it to a help site like PPT and use a name other than your Neopets username.

•Don't use the trading post as a gallery. 1, TNT said not to do it, so it's freezable; 2, it's a pain for others; 3, it makes you stand out.

•If you have a rare item gallery in your shop, don't make the prices weird (123321, 123456, 100001, etc.). A 100000 is much more boring than a 123321 and will probably get less views.

•Block all neomails. It saves you having to deal with stupid people. If your friends want to talk to you, have them e-mail you instead, e-mail is much better than neomail anyways.

•If you really don't want to take any risks, don't do a gallery at all.

•Don't make your avatar an expensive avatar. When people lookup your username and see the MSPP - Evil avatar, they're going to think you're rich automatically, even if you don't have the card.

That's about all I can think of.


Ok, well I'm basically unknown except for a select group of people.

First - drawing attention to your self. That for me is pretty easy. I've entered a few of the contests (lookup, random) and have never won. I have seen people who've won those, been published in the NT, art gallery, etc. be harrassed. But that's not their fault - that's what those contests are for -- to see who can do their best and have Neopets find it the best!

As to never using the boards. I was actually frozen long before I discovered the boards - I'd fallen for a fake log-in page scam. Had I known about the boards and read enough/asked questions when the scam happened, there's a good chance I'd not have lost my account (which I did get back a few months later - empty except for my pets). The boards can be a hotbed of trouble. They can also be a good, helpful, informative place. It depends on the people involved. Personally? I never argue on the boards - I "walk" away.

Not revealing username - I agree with that, but not specifically for your reasoning. I've known too many people who've been contacted and tried to be scammed/cracked/hacked/stalked (why I'm adamant about not having any personal information such as email, IM, etc. anywhere). Plus, what I say off the site is my business -- no one else's.

I am in a guild, if you can call it that. It's more just a very tiny haven - and because I'm in a guild I don't get inundated with guild invites (and yes, those along with everything else is blocked).

High score table? Impossible for me -- I'm just not that good at games. I think I have 3 game trophies and those were lucky flukes.

My petpages aren't linked to per se, but they are known as being help pages by some people. But by no means are they "famous".

NF requests I do keep blocked as a general rule - getting random, unknown people requesting is annoying.

2 player challenges? My pet's not strong enough/my strategy is truly bad/I don't have the weapons needed and I don't like the idea that someone could poison or otherwise hurt or change (Chia Flour anyone?) my battle pet.

Not good enough at any game to write a guide.

The TP's not been allowed to be used for nft since the Mystery Island plot/TP debacle, and I don't own anything worth "showing off" on the tp.

UB in shop? not at the moment (heck, right now nothing's priced since the whole duping thing), but I don't see where that would make anyone stand out more.

My neomails are always blocked. Same reason nf requests are -- I find random neomails annoying and pointless.

A gallery should not make anyone a "target", especially since so many people have one. Unless of course, you have a gallery filled with rare/retired/uber expensive UB. Even then, people have the right to have whatever they want in a gallery.

Avatars -- well I have had my problems with those - I have the Number Six avi and I don't use it anymore simply because I get tired of the "OMG you must be so rich!" posts and having to explain that I got the avi when Adam had around 15k out. So that I do kind of agree with. Not that it'll get you frozen just for having a particular avi, but that you can be hassled from beggers/jealous people.

To me, as long as you follow the rules (as much as any of us know the rules); try to be a good member; be polite, don't argue - not matter what, if someone's trying to get to you just leave the board; don't draw undue attention to yourself (don't be a drama queen, don't brag, don't start arguments, never post another person's username in a bad way, watch the RL topics), then I don't think you should have much to worry about.

That doesn't mean I don't worry sometimes, more with things like setting up a junk trade on my spare so I can send alot of food from my main for the pets on that account; and the fact that there are 2 people using this computer who both play Neo - and yes I have written to support and I have gotten an answer which I've saved. Otherwise, I just go about my own business and let others do the same.

I don't ever do dailies, play games, sell from a shop/tp/auctions on my other account - anything for that account comes from my main.

As to David's site, well he was a long time, well known, savvy, uber elite player. It was a sad night when he finally had enough. If he seems bitter, it's because he saw too many of his friends frozen and other things I won't go into. I don't' know all the facts, I just know enough to say that I still miss him and his smarts, his sense of humor, his honesty in his dealings with other members.


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Wow, very extreme. The steps really aren't necessary, I'm at 38 months and I've NEVER even gotten so much as a warning. I post on the neoboards occasionally, I've told my sn to quite a few people, I'm in a guild, I've been in first place in a high score table, I occasionally battle strangers, I have 2 avatar pets, and I accept all neomails. I think it's just a matter of using your discretion. If you block out half the things site has to offer, there's really no point in playing. It's boring.

seriously, those words almost match exactly what im trying to say :o


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It's not extreme at all, and I thank you for the good guide. It's all very well saying it's over paranoid and such but the fact is if you follow those rules you are much less likely to be frozen! Yes you can "break" several of those rules and not get frozen, and yes you may break them all and not get frozen but the fact remains that if you did follow them all then your account would be much safer.

People have to accept these days that drawing more attention to your account, making it look like you're rich and especially chatting on the neoboards all put your account at more risk.

Like I say you can break all those rules and be fine, but many of us already follow a great many of those rules just in case as I for one know many people frozen for a great many of those things. If you choose to play Neopets differently then that's fine but I wouldn't call someone who plays that way paranoid - you just take what safeguards you can and acknowledge that some of the things you keep on doing will be your weak point.

I would also recommend that you do not link your accounts together but keep them seperate and hidden from each other. People don't need to see all your pretty pets :)

And yeah it is sad that you have to jump through so many hoops to feel like your account is safe :/


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Well, I've gotta say I do most of those things and haven't been frozen in 37 months.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:32 am 
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I don't think it's extreme at all. Just pick and choose what you want to do, guys.
I'm still going to be in my guild.
As I get freaky neomails from people who see my name up on the table month after month, I think the game tip is a good idea.
My oldest account was frozen a year ago, when the password/help page glitch occurred. My account was ransacked. I never did anything conspicuous with it, and somehow people still heard of my username.
Thanks for the tips, dear.


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