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What's a written scale, as opposed to a concert scale?

And is there any way to count 32nd notes?

If the bottomless well of PPT has answers, much thankies!

I don't know about written scales, but a concert scale is a scale that is fitted for an entire band. (for instance, if the conductor said 'B Flat Concert Scale' to his band, then the lower brass such as trombone, euphonium, and tuba would play B flat written scale, trumpets and french horns would play F major (I believe), and the others I'm not 100% sure, but that's basically what it is) It's basic orchaestral transposition, a level 2 theory concept.

And what do you mean by counting a 32nd note?

I think she means a note that can fit 16 times into 1 bar.
And I haven't a clue.

Well, here's a chart

1 whole note = 2 half notes (oval)
1 half notes = 2 quarter notes (oval with line)
1 quarter note = 2 eighth notes (oval with line, coloured in)
1 eight note = 2 sixteenth notes (oval with line and one flag)
1 sixteenth note = 2 thirty-second notes (oval with line and two flags)
1 thirty-second note = 2 sixty-fourth notes (oval witih line and three flags)
1 whole note = 12 sixty-fourth notes (oval with line and four flags)

I think that's right, anyhow.

To follow up on what Tyrannitar and CD said...

Written scales, I think, is the scale itself according to key. For example, if it says B flat major, you'd play precisely that. Concert scales are scales in which various sections may play in different keys- I think that's so that the overall impression appears as a chord-scale of the key. For example, if it were a concert scale in C major, some would play in C, while others would play in G. E too, perhaps. I'm not entirely sure though, but that's what I think it is.

Counting 32nd notes? It's actually 32 times in one bar. Well, Tyrannitar's got the idea, but if you're trying to count it in the context of a piece, it really depends on the tempo. After all, you can't play and tap your foot 16 times in a bar that passes in a second. Just come up with your own method.

And think of it as fractions. That might help...
Whole=1
Half=1/2
Quarter=1/4
Eighth=1/8
Sixteenth=1/16
Thirty-second=1/32
Sixty-fourth=1/64

Thanks guys!

Now I can go practice..... The question on 32nd notes was more about counting in the context of a piece. The one I'm looking at is about 72, so it's pretty slow. I had no idea about the scale thing though.