Movies & Television - The Locked Topics

[Nessa]

There are 17 pages of topics in Movies & Television.

Pages 1-5 are postable topics.

Pages 6-17 are full of locked topics, thats 11 pages of locked topics.

There are 6 Fantastic Four threads, 2 of which is unlocked (the same for Star-Wars.)

I understand that people do make mistakes and create duplicate threads which the moderators then do their duty, which is to point out the mistake and lock the thread. BUT- 3 of the Fantastic Four threads did NOT have a mod post at the end stating why they were locked and 2 of them were actively posted on!

This one was posted in July, actively posted on and is unlocked:


http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

This one was posted in May, one person posted and is unlocked:

http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17380

This one was posted in March, was actively posted on and is locked:

http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14915

Now my theory is, that the one in march was locked before the other five rolled around. But if it had been left open, then the one posted in July wouldn't have been made and it wouldn't have been allowed to get to 3 pages.

The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy came out this tuesday on DVD, I want to say something about the DVD.

http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16916

Oh no I can't! The thread is locked! So what do I do? I go and make a new thread about Hitchikers. So now there's two where they could've just been one.

I understand that some should be locked at a certain point, such as American Idol, Big Brother, Movies that Made You Cry, Movies that You Love, etc etc ETC.

I could understand locking topics when they get old if they were about to get pruned and you figure 'hey, if no-ones posted by now, they're not going to.'

But we don't prune anymore. What is wrong with someone bumping a old topic if things aren't getting pruned? At least in Movies and Television anyway, where Movies and TV shows are timeless.

So the underlying question in this long post is "WHY?!"

Why are threads getting locked for no other reason then no-one has posted on it in in about around a month?

And why are we keeping such locked threads if they're locked and no-one can do anything but look at them?

I'm sorry, but 11 pages of locked topics to me is a bit ridiculous.



Important note: This is not meant to be a dive at any of PPT's staff much less the Moves & Television moderators. I respect and admire all of PPT's staff for the work they do, I am trying to merely point out something that I find a bit... dumb and pointless.

[ahoteinrun]

Topics Die.
Those topics that you're looking at, starting on the locked topic "last posted" dates, are all in May. It would be considered ressurection if you were to post on them.
I don't really feel it's cluttering to simply make a new topic when topics are that old, and obviously unused.

[Nessa]

I can understand locking topics to reduce clutter, but some of those threads are a year old. Why not prune them? Whos going to want to read/reference a year old thread? Who would need to?

Whats wrong with resurrecting old threads? Especially about movies. To me, movies are timeless and shouldn't have to create a new thread just because the other one was locked due to unactivity.

Yes that brings up the clutter issue, but wouldn't pruning be the answer to clutter? Which could also bring up the reference point, but I think at some point after so long, you might not need to reference something?

-Apologies, I'm running on about 4-6 hours of sleep and its not working correctly, so sorry if I don't make sense.

ETA: I want to point out that this post is me talking about the system as I understand it, as much as I'm trying to point out the problem I see, I'm also trying to understand it from other people points of view.

[Bangel]

If you think that's bad, 26 pages in No Nutritional Value are pure locked topics. And that's only out of 28 pages. I think we should start pruning again, or just not locking after inactivity (excluding splits), instead of letting the hundreds of threads in the entire forum that are locked just sit and take up space.

[Tharkun]

While we're at it, RPs shouldn't be locked so soon. I mean, two weeks is an insane window. A month, though... yeah.

[Nessa]

While we're at it, RPs shouldn't be locked so soon. I mean, two weeks is an insane window. A month, though... yeah.

Speaking as a outsider to the RP world, I'm of the opinion that RPs must move fast in order to be completed. If anyone in the RP doesn't post on it after two weeks... then its not going to get finished and relativly low on anyone's priority list.

If you think that's bad, 26 pages in No Nutritional Value are pure locked topics. And that's only out of 28 pages. I think we should start pruning again, or just not locking after inactivity (excluding splits), instead of letting the hundreds of threads in the entire forum that are locked just sit and take up space.

Holy crap O_O;

[MyleneFarmer]

I'm a bit confused by some of the rules on additional threads and reviving old threads. My problem is usually over in the Anime & Manga section. I tend to see my anime well after others, since I usually wait for the commercial subs to come out, and then watch only 4-5 episodes every couple of weeks. So by the time I've watched a series (the whole thing, can't risk spoilers), the discussion has concluded. But I didn't have the opportunity to discuss, so I'm always torn betweens reviving a thread that ended 2 months earlier (and fear upsetting a mod for doing so) or starting a new thread which is also against the rules. I find that I rarely get to discuss anime because I'm always just a bit behind everyone else in viewing... I just can't help but wonder if a new perspective wouldn't perhaps totally revive the thread and keep it going though...

Anyway, I guess I'm not really adding anything important to this thread, aside from voicing a concern that I have, and this seemed a good place to do it. I'm a goody-goody. The thought of upsetting a mod/increasing their work or even worse, receiving a strike (even one that I don't know about), just about makes me want to cry. ^^;

[Jasujo]

Just so you know, on the Anime & Manga board, you can feel free to "revive" an older thread if you have something worthwhile to post on it. I view that board as a sort of reference board. In fact, when someone posts a repeat thread, we lock and point them to the old thread so the discussion can continue on the old one and things won't be repeated over and over.

[MyleneFarmer]

Just so you know, on the Anime & Manga board, you can feel free to "revive" an older thread if you have something worthwhile to post on it. I view that board as a sort of reference board. In fact, when someone posts a repeat thread, we lock and point them to the old thread so the discussion can continue on the old one and things won't be repeated over and over.

Thank you for responding to that concern, Jasujo. I was hoping you would when I saw were browing the forums. ^_^ I had seen you lock and refer before, and that was part of what sparked the concern/confusion I was having.

[Xil]

While we're at it, RPs shouldn't be locked so soon. I mean, two weeks is an insane window. A month, though... yeah.

Though I don't actively RP at PPT as much as I should, having a two week window is a good way to keep an RP active.

Plus, If no one has posted for over two weeks, it's most likely that no one will post for another two.

[Bangel]

I agree with Xil. If no one posts for a whole two weeks, people just aren't interested in the RP anymore or it's gotten to a place where people are having trouble thinking of things to say. And also, after two weeks dead, most of the members aren't even watching the RP anymore anyway. So you could post, but that doesn't mean anyone in the RP would read it.

[Nessa]

Just so you know, on the Anime & Manga board, you can feel free to "revive" an older thread if you have something worthwhile to post on it. I view that board as a sort of reference board. In fact, when someone posts a repeat thread, we lock and point them to the old thread so the discussion can continue on the old one and things won't be repeated over and over.

I don't see whats wrong with doing the same thing with Movies and Television, just keeping it all into one topic and locking extras. And after about six months, three months, whatever is decided by the almighty PPT Gods (or as we know them: Jim & Rune) going and pruning the locked topics (which of course isn't simple or as I know it, possible. I'm just trying to give ideas and everyone knows that impossible ideas are the best.) This in my opinion, would reduce clutter.

note: I'm not trying to do something that isn't my job, but please no more chatter about the RPs? This thread is more about the abundance of locked topics just sitting then locking too soon.

[Igg]

I don't know much about the Anime Board. But the Movies and Television Board...well, threads aren't really much use for reference.

It isn't the most active of boards, really, though it does OK. When someone starts a new topic about something that, yeah, there's already a 4th-page topic on, then people do end up saying things they've already said. But if they 'revived' and old topic, it would soon die again quickly, because people wouldn't go on it and repeat something they've already said in the same thread.

I dunno. There's arguments both ways, but peronsally I'm not too fond of flogging a dead horse. Either metaphorically or literally.

[Matt]

While we're at it, RPs shouldn't be locked so soon. I mean, two weeks is an insane window. A month, though... yeah.

Though I don't actively RP at PPT as much as I should, having a two week window is a good way to keep an RP active.

Plus, If no one has posted for over two weeks, it's most likely that no one will post for another two.

Last year, during my Summer Holidays (Whee - I've been a mod for a year!!) the window was 1 week, and while peuople were quasi-active, a lot of them fell to pieces.

We agreed to extend it to 2 weeks, and I think it works better now. As people have said before me, if someone hasn't posted for 2 weeks, why would they post again. Also, long lapses in time make the story hard to follow, and could create confusion.

I remember seeing one roleplay in which people deleted their last post and added a new one when it was about to be pseudo-pruned, and a lot of the people didn't know what was going on, and got very confused with the storyline. I think 3 people left because of that, but also due to the inactivity of the role play, becuase it was just this one thread getting added to again and again.

[Lillie]

While we're at it, RPs shouldn't be locked so soon. I mean, two weeks is an insane window. A month, though... yeah.

When we used to have the pruning system, role plays were automatically pruned about a week later. Now we don't have the system, we manually 'prune' them.

We used to lock them after a week of complete inactivity, but we decided to extend it to two weeks in case of holidays, people not being able to log on for a week, etc. It seems reasonably long enough to maintain any interest in the role play, but also short enough to discourage people from bumping evidently dead role plays.

If anyone really, really wants to re-open a locked role play, the moderators might be happy to oblige and unlock it, providing there is genuine interest in it.