Werewolf 4 Excess (Nov. 20-21)

[DM was on fire!]

I'm going to have to go with jellyoflight on the third page.

Vote: gundam_kola01

I hope I'm doing this right. ;_;

[Wind]

I'm still undecided... Okamoto made quite a long post, and this is weird since in the beginning of the game people usually post useless random stuff to pass unnoticed.
Kugetsu, your post makes sense, but only if Okamoto and Gundam aren't two baddies on the same side.

[flatluigi]

I think oka's acting suspicious too... Let's get one of them out of the way, huh everyone?

EDIT: Maybe not. I want an elimination, and I have no idea who may or may not be it this close to the beginning, so...
UNVOTE-okamotosan18
VOTE: Gundam

By the way, how many baddies are there or are we not supposed to know?

Last edited by flatluigi on Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[ScottNak]

Gundam_kola01- 8 vote: Dawn2, jellyoflight, Ixistant, Puck102701, Lass, Matt, Alisquid, dM was on fire!

Okamotosan18-2 vote: Twinkle, flatluigi

Dawn2- 1 vote: Gundam_kola01
HoroHoro- 1 vote: Kidwaiy,
Raze- 1 vote: Kugetsu
Wind- 1 vote: Okamotosan18

39 people are playing.
50% = 20 votes is majority.


execution will take place at 6pm tonight.

[Wind]

Vote: Gundam_kola01

I can change it later, though.

[okamotosan18]

My stance against first day executions isn't anything new. I made the same point last game here, and the game at IDB. I'm not against the death of Gundam per se, but against first day executions. I only gave bad guys one less reason to kill me by proving I have no secret powers for them to steal. If you really feel the need to kill me, then do it, but I'll be exactly the same in the groupies thread. I don't need you to believe me because I have nothing to lose.

Edit in:
UNVOTE: Wind
Since it doesn't matter if we vote for people to try to stop the execution. I didn't realized that had changed, oops, haha

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[Ammer]

However, we should aim to get an execution the first day. Even if you are a good guy, then at least we've got a higher chance of hitting a baddy next round,

Yes, but you seem too willing to give up a good guy. We don't have to have an execution but I don't want to blindly vote on majority at the risk of losing an innocent. I don't understand why you would sacrifice a good guy just like that. No one knows the roles, there could be possibly more powers the bad guys have than the good guys and if we kill someone good for the sake of an execution, we'll be the ones to pay for it -- when the bad guys kill us.

[meowth1982]

Hmm what a way to wake up lol. I think I'm going to hold off my vote a little bit longer though...I really don't know who to vote for yet

[Squinchy]

The only thing more daunting than seeing how high the B major scale goes on the viola's fingerboard is seeing five pages of Werewolf 4 thread..[I just came home from a jolly viola lesson.]

Did anyone know that Werewolf is Vir (Man) + Wolf?

Even after reading the five pages, I'm not sure who to vote for. Maybe I'll go annoy the Extreme Potato Counter game-running-people o'er thar. I was never good at that game..

[Shadowfare]

I'm going to have to go vote for Gundam_kola01, not band wagonning, its just other people have stated everything I noticed in your posts.

Vote: Gundam_kola01

[Kugetsu]

Wind - That was meant for all players, not just Chris and gundam_kola01 . Basically there's an extreme improbability that they are both baddies on the same team seeing as with Chris's experience, he wouldn't put himself up on the chopping block like that defending someone who was on his side, if he were a baddie. I highly doubt that Chris would make a mistake like that.

I think Matt brings up a decent point. The only way for us to heighten the chances of our executing a baddie (heck, they'll probably end up killing themselves again this game) this early into the game is to lessen the amount of innocents that are alive. Since gundam_kola01 doesn't seem to have any important innocent power, I don't think this execution would severely hurt the team. If you DO have an important innocent role, tell us so that we don't have to waste an execution on you!

As for Chris, I highly doubt that he's a werewolf or a mafia member just because putting yourself into the spotlight like that is not baddie behavior and also because he's in the spotlight, he may be a main target of the Mystic and Angel, which would give him away immediately. He COULD be a moongazer, criminal, axe killer, mental patient, or some other role that we don't know of (if any new roles or powers were added), but I don't think Chris is lying.

As for gundam_kola01, the only thing I can say is that at this point, I don't think that she has an important innocent role. She could still be an innocent or a baddie. I can't really say which though.

[Ixistant]

However, we should aim to get an execution the first day. Even if you are a good guy, then at least we've got a higher chance of hitting a baddy next round,

Yes, but you seem too willing to give up a good guy. We don't have to have an execution but I don't want to blindly vote on majority at the risk of losing an innocent. I don't understand why you would sacrifice a good guy just like that. No one knows the roles, there could be possibly more powers the bad guys have than the good guys and if we kill someone good for the sake of an execution, we'll be the ones to pay for it -- when the bad guys kill us.

Well, if you look at the original WW18 on IDB, they got about 7 baddies within the first 3 days and not a single innocent. But then it was cancelled. But think about it. It all happens. So he could be a baddie. Matt could be a baddie. YOU could be a baddie. But we just don't know. But it's better to determine who is and isn't a baddie in the first few days.

[Alex]

Half band wagoning here, half agreeing with others. I'd like to read the posts more carefully, but I've got to go in about 15 minutes.

Vote: gundam_kola01

[Ammer]

However, we should aim to get an execution the first day. Even if you are a good guy, then at least we've got a higher chance of hitting a baddy next round,

Yes, but you seem too willing to give up a good guy. We don't have to have an execution but I don't want to blindly vote on majority at the risk of losing an innocent. I don't understand why you would sacrifice a good guy just like that. No one knows the roles, there could be possibly more powers the bad guys have than the good guys and if we kill someone good for the sake of an execution, we'll be the ones to pay for it -- when the bad guys kill us.

Well, if you look at the original WW18 on IDB, they got about 7 baddies within the first 3 days and not a single innocent. But then it was cancelled. But think about it. It all happens. So he could be a baddie. Matt could be a baddie. YOU could be a baddie. But we just don't know. But it's better to determine who is and isn't a baddie in the first few days.

This is not like IDB. It won't happen the same way -- if it does than that's great -- but I doubt it will happen. And how can you determine who and who isn't a baddie in the first few days? They're 39 players playing, that would be impossible to determine if anyone is good and bad. Everyone will say they're good. Then what?

[okamotosan18]

Just to point out, the mass bad-guy killing in the original WW18 at IDB wasn't completely legitimate. A lot of the killings were because names were leaked by players who didn't want to stay loyal to a team with mostly new players on it. So you can't really use that as an example since it was so bad that it had to be cancelled.