New Teaching Style

[DiscordantNote]

1. Yeah, too much work for the teacher, unless they don't rely on the textbook for everything.
2. Sounded great, until I read how it had to be exactly like the final test.
3. Ridiculous. 'Nuff said.

[Fiddelysquat]

That is possibly the most idiotic teaching method I've ever heard of. We've come to a point in this country where we feel the need to coddle everyone and prevent "hurt feelings". If you're too much of an idiot to do your homework and study, you deserve to fail. There's a slew of ways to get tutoring or something in most schools, so there really is no excuse.

From what I've read, you need little more than a pulse to pass these new classes. Pre-test the SAME as the unit test? What kind of ignoramous came up with that idea? All the kids have to do is memorize the answers for the actual test! That's like giving them a cheat sheet!

It's disgusting how far people will go to promote the stupid idea that "everybody's a winner". NO, not everybody is a winner, and you certainly aren't fooling kids when you give every 5th grader the same ribbon at field day, or put a sticker on every test no matter how atrocious the grade.

I hate stuff like this. I HATE it.

[Shadow]

In algebra, the teacher gave us a review that was the same as the test, execpt she change the numbers. So we would know what the basic test was going to be, we just couldn't go and memorize the numbers. The whole review for the test works in algebra(or in any math class for example) because its easy enough to change the numbers.

[Fiddelysquat]

In algebra, the teacher gave us a review that was the same as the test, execpt she change the numbers. So we would know what the basic test was going to be, we just couldn't go and memorize the numbers. The whole review for the test works in algebra(or in any math class for example) because its easy enough to change the numbers.

That's a pretty decent idea, but these numbskulls are proposing the EXACT SAME TEST. Like, you get two copies of the same paper twice. *headdesk* Who could ever think that's a good idea?!

[o_0]

In algebra, the teacher gave us a review that was the same as the test, execpt she change the numbers. So we would know what the basic test was going to be, we just couldn't go and memorize the numbers. The whole review for the test works in algebra(or in any math class for example) because its easy enough to change the numbers.

That's a pretty decent idea, but these numbskulls are proposing the EXACT SAME TEST. Like, you get two copies of the same paper twice. *headdesk* Who could ever think that's a good idea?!

Students, of course. ;D

I'm starting to think this method was started by a kid who failed high school because he was too lazy to study. ._.

[Igg]

From what I've read, you need little more than a pulse to pass these new classes. Pre-test the SAME as the unit test? What kind of ignoramous came up with that idea? All the kids have to do is memorize the answers for the actual test! That's like giving them a cheat sheet!

We had those for my fortnightly exams in ICT. The exams were just progress tests, but he gave you the question apper the week before and you memorised the answers.
Or just brought the answers in with you as you did it in a teacherless room. Hahaha.

[Wind]

Our English teacher gave us some exercises one day to practice, then gave them next week as a test. Incredibly enough, some people managed to get low marks all the same.
To see that the idea spreads like this is a bit depressing.

[CSK]

I haven't posted in a long, long time but I felt compelled to leave a quick message.

I will put this bluntly. I think you are making this up. That, or your mother is stringing you along, or you're misconstruing what she tells you.

I did a thorough search about new teaching methods in the United States and Pinellas County and failed to find anything about these teaching methods. Since you claim that these methods will be possibly promoted state or country wide, I find the lack of any media commentary on it whatsoever puzzling, to say the least.

Now, if you were able to present something to me, I'd happily admit that I was wrong. But giving your incredulous claims, I am very skeptical that you will.

[o_0]

I haven't posted in a long, long time but I felt compelled to leave a quick message.

I will put this bluntly. I think you are making this up. That, or your mother is stringing you along, or you're misconstruing what she tells you.

I did a thorough search about new teaching methods in the United States and Pinellas County and failed to find anything about these teaching methods. Since you claim that these methods will be possibly promoted state or country wide, I find the lack of any media commentary on it whatsoever puzzling, to say the least.

Now, if you were able to present something to me, I'd happily admit that I was wrong. But giving your incredulous claims, I am very skeptical that you will.

My mum is generally not the type of person to joke.

I said later on in the thread that I had found out it was only for my county, however, some other counties across the country have adopted this method.

My mum is one of the first teachers to learn this method in my county, Pinellas County, Florida. That means that not all teachers have learned this teaching method in the county. Only around seven teachers from my school, which has around 2500 students, were at the workshop with her.

EDIT: Here is an article I found.

http://www.badvance.com/BloomerAdvance. ... uid2=11711

BMS has slowly been imple-menting concepts from PEAK teaching methodology. PEAK stands for Performance Excellence for All Kids, and it is a research-based approach first started by Spence Rogers in Colorado.

In the PEAK way of teaching, an objective is taught "28 times in different ways over three weeks," the principal said. "That means teachers have to find different ways to cover material so our kids understand it."

Rather than let students pass or fail a subject like in the past, teachers cover a subject and then hand out a practice test to see what pupils understand. "That provides feedback to the teacher," Kamrath said. "O.K., most kids are understanding this, but some aren't. So we need to change what we're doing a bit, Kamrath said.

Grading of each objective is now an'A' (excellent, you nailed it), a 'B' (no question in my mind that you understand this), or 'N" (for "not yet" meaning a student needs more study). "If a child gets all A's or B's, then they can move on," Kamrath said.

For students who have some N scores (not yet understanding some items), they can do more study, and retake parts of the test. Many teachers offer additional help after school hours for students with difficulties and there are special learning labs, Kamrath said. Most middle school teachers are "really gung-ho" about this new way of teaching, he noted. And some of these new teaching techniques are being explored in the Elementary School.

[CSK]

Ah well, I stand corrected!

Although that article gives a more balanced view of the teaching methods.. I understand to an extent what they are trying to get at.

However, I'm skeptical that this would ever be introduced into high schools, simply because Universities wouldnt accept such a system for entry. Are you sure about High school implementation, or the extent to which it would be integrated?

[o_0]

Ah well, I stand corrected!

Although that article gives a more balanced view of the teaching methods.. I understand to an extent what they are trying to get at.

However, I'm skeptical that this would ever be introduced into high schools, simply because Universities wouldnt accept such a system for entry. Are you sure about High school implementation, or the extent to which it would be integrated?

It's to be implemented in all grade levels of public schools.

[DiscordantNote]

BMS has slowly been imple-menting concepts from PEAK teaching methodology. PEAK stands for Performance Excellence for All Kids, and it is a research-based approach first started by Spence Rogers in Colorado.

Meh...

In the PEAK way of teaching, an objective is taught "28 times in different ways over three weeks," the principal said. "That means teachers have to find different ways to cover material so our kids understand it."

Dear cows! I thought some of my classes were boring already, but imagine learning the same thing over and over again that many times and for that long!

Rather than let students pass or fail a subject like in the past, teachers cover a subject and then hand out a practice test to see what pupils understand. "That provides feedback to the teacher," Kamrath said. "O.K., most kids are understanding this, but some aren't. So we need to change what we're doing a bit, Kamrath said.

That actually makes sense, as long as it's different than the test it's a pretest for.

Grading of each objective is now an'A' (excellent, you nailed it), a 'B' (no question in my mind that you understand this), or 'N" (for "not yet" meaning a student needs more study). "If a child gets all A's or B's, then they can move on," Kamrath said.

Good for elementary, bad everywhere else. Besides, this means a C grade is failing. If the student takes notice of that, their self-esteem surely won't be raised.

For students who have some N scores (not yet understanding some items), they can do more study, and retake parts of the test.

Doesn't sound bad, until the other information gathered from this topic is thrown in. The same test? Multiple retakes? Ha, ha, ha...no.

Many teachers offer additional help after school hours for students with difficulties and there are special learning labs, Kamrath said.

That's pretty much already being done, and it does help those who don't understand the material. Though, many of the low grade scorers are just slackers, and wouldn't bother.

Most middle school teachers are "really gung-ho" about this new way of teaching, he noted.

I'm a student and I think this idea is more dung than Borovan will ever want.

And some of these new teaching techniques are being explored in the Elementary School.

It'll only work there, but only up until 3rd or 4th grade. otherwise the students will get a nasty shock when they hit middle school and recieve Cs and Ds (assuming they don't let it into the middle school...*shudders*).

[Chao]

My sympathies to any child that is put through this nonsense in Elementary School. At times like this I can just shrug my shoulders and hope that it never happens.

I hate to think my baby sister might grow up in that kind of education system. It depresses me.

[M. Bison]

CSK raises a good point---no accredited university will take any high school that runs that kind of system seriously. In college, the notion of a 3.0 GPA placing you at the rock bottom of your class is absolutely unheard of, as is the idea of continually retaking tests until you pass.

I doubt there's any need to worry. This system will never be widely implemented in high schools across the United States. Colleges wouldn't allow it.