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.:Compact Disk:. I respect your decision but I think I made it pretty clear that it is a sunset so if that is your reason for giving me a low mark then it's not a really good one. Besides everyone else understands that it is a sunset.


That is not true, when I made the signature, I didn't mean it as either, I assumed it would be taken both ways.


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I have to agree, it could be either sunset or sunrise (though my personal vote goes to sunset) and I think it's quite unfair for Ammer to mark so many people down because they looked at it differently.


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I've always found sunsets to be purpley & duskish. Whereas sunrises to be red & orangey/dawnish.


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The skies ignited
It works, but honestly, this is pretty much what comes directly to mind when I saw the image. This is what I call a "two second subtext" because I don't think it takes much to come up with. If you absolutely can think of nothing but generics, then at least substitute words somehow to make it different.

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Fire bathes the western skies
Again, it is pretty generic. However, I like how you added in some words like western to make the length pretty good. I also like the word "bathes", I find it to describe the way the light covers the image very well.

amarise
Arise
Ho hum. I do like the word you chose to use. But this isn't "Word King/Queen", it's Subtext King/Queen. I find one word subtexts to barely ever work out well, and I don't believe this is a time where it does work. This competition, to me anyway, is more than just finding a good phrase. It's about the technical aspects as well, such as making the subtext fit on the signature based on the amount of space. I think this short of a subtext would hurt the signature more than help it, because it already has a lot of empty space as it is.

Anubis
Alluring Sunset
I really like the use of the word alluring, because in my opinion, good adjectives are the difference between a good subtext and a bad subtext. However, the word "sunset" doesn't follow up well to the powerful adjective. Maybe take a different point on it. Random example is Requiem, who used fire to describe the sunset instead of just saying "sunset".

Blk Mage
The Fiery Birth of A New Day
I like how you decided to go with the flipside approach- a sunrise. That shows some real potential with originality, and I like to see that. Regardless of other judges, I took this signature as either a sunrise or a sunset, and I was disappointed when a lot of people just chose the obvious approach. The word fiery really sets this subtext... ablaze. Without the single word, I probably would be voting you out.

Fiddelysquat
*fade in* The dawn of a new day... *fade out*
Note to everyone reading this: fades = bad. Well. I can see opposing viewpoints, but in my opinion, they're a waste of file size and time, especially when they aren't needed. There are times when they work well, and times when they're really a bad option. Unfortunately, I think this falls into the latter. However, I do like the subtext itself. Again, because you thought out of the box. You took what almost everyone else took as something entirely different and changed the meaning of the image entirely, which I deeply like.

Forest_Majesty
Ethereal Blaze -fade out--fade in- Burning True
This, I think, is one of the rare occurences where I think a fade works well. I like the subtext very much myself, and the only problem I see with it is a slight problem with originality. Tons of people went with the fire viewpoint, and though I do like that viewpoint, it's been really overused this round. Don't be afraid to step out into your own territory, because chances are judges (at least me, anyway) will like that best. You've shown a good amount of powerful adjectives and I really like that.

Jen
Land of the Rising Sun.
Eh. This had some potential, and could have been a powerful subtext, but it pretty much flopped in my opinion. It's all about those powerful adjectives. So many words could have been changed in this subtext to make it better. If in doubt, go to http://www.thesaurus.com and pick whatever words you find interesting as substitutes. Sure to make me, at least, happy. :)

Kidwaiy
Can't set if the sun doesn't rise
Not my favorite, I have to say. It's... confusing, as well as a bit gramatically incorrect (I think...?). The length is alright, I guess, and there's really nothing more for me to say. I guess I do like how you incorporated more than just a sunrise/sunset alone, but implied the presence of both. That wins you some points.

mjrinella
Sunny Moments are life's quiet treasures
Since this doesn't really show a "sunny moment", I've got to say this doesn't fit all too well. Maybe if you had said "Dusk's Moments are life's quiet treasures" (or Dawn's, depending on which side you choose to go on). Plus, just for future reference, if you're going to capitilize some words, you might as well capitilize all of them. That, or none at all (excluding the first letter of the subtext, since you know, that's all happy and grammarful and all).

paperfacesX022
As the sun rises . . . *fade* as the sun falls . . .
Love it. :) You took what I don't think anyone else in this round truly, truly did and decided that since there was so much debate on what the picture was of, you'd just incorporate both for the hell of it. That was probably not even close to your mindframe at the time, but you get the point. ;P And this is also a time where the fade works well (wow. Two in a round. That's rare). All in all, keep up the good work.

pattypus
Saying goodnight to the world
I like this one. :) You didn't go for "OMG IT'S A SUNSET WITH PRETTY COLORS AND LOTS OF COOL ADJECTIVES INFRONT OF IT" but instead went for a metaphor (or whatever it is) for the sunset instead. I know this is hardly a nitpick, but if I have to point out some mistake, the word 'saying' could be less bland. For example, maybe "bidding goodnight to the world"?

sirclucky
Sailor's worst fear*fade out* Lovers draw near
Aw, I like this one. The rhyme is a great touch. Unfortunately, some people don't know the whole story about the whole sailor thing, so I can see how they wouldn't get it. But for people that do, this subtext is really good. Nothing for me to critique on here, I don't think.

Stephanie
*fade in* The end of a perfect night...... *fade out* * fade in* The beginning of a brand new day...
So much fading. Honestly, if you're going to do a fade, it's probably better to just have one part fade out and the other come beneath it. Multiple fades are pretty annoying and personally, I'd get bored sitting for a while waiting for all of subtext to show up. I like this one, though. I know I said earlier that I thought paperface's was the only one that talked about both sunsets/sunrises, but it appears yours does too. :) I like it, and good job.

Twinkle
Light on the horizon.
Despite your stellar subtext history, I've gotta say this really isn't one of your bests. It works well enough, and the length is okay, but it really isn't... superior. The word light could be replaced with a better word easily, and as I said to another person (I've forgotten who, sadly) if you need to think of better words, and even if you think your words are great, it doesn't hurt to chuck some words into http://www.thesaurus.com and see what nice alternatives come up.

WIS
Setting the skies ablaze
You pretty much took the same path as a lot of people did, and for that I can't greatly applaud you. This one does, however, represent what I think the image represents- you don't know if it's a sunrise or a sunset. If you were asked to identify what the image was of by subtext alone, I guarantee to you that at least 50% of the subtexts this round would tell you quite bluntly. However, in this one, no one would be able to tell which one you were referring to- which is exactly what the image, in my opinion, itself represents.

Xil
..Our fates fold in the half sun..
The periods are pretty unneeded, and I don't think there is any pixel font (or regular font alike) that could display this subtext with the periods with optimal viewing. Despite that incredibly small detail, I like this one. I like the phrase itself, and as the subtext above this, it doesn't entirely specify if you're talking about a sunrise or a sunset. I like it.


1. Kidwaiy
2. Amarise
3. Jade_em

Sorry guys. :(

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I've always found sunsets to be purpley & duskish. Whereas sunrises to be red & orangey/dawnish.


I've seen both have opposite colors than what you described, as well as the same. It really varies, I think.


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Mayby its a giant glass globe suspended in the sky. And accually neither sunrise or sunset =P


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Well, considering the case, I will re-edit some of my ratings.

Therefore, Robert, don't take my final ratings into account yet.


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Hm, I was told by my English teacher that there really is no way to tell for sure whether a picture of a sun on the horizon is a sunrise or a sunset o_o;

Oh, and (to the judges who found Kidwaiy's a little odd) when I first read Kidwaiy's I thought it was a play on words with "set" for an av&sig set and "set" for a setting sun ... maybe I'm wrong though xD


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o_o;;

Frankly, I don't think it matters if it's a sunrise or sunset. Everyone interprets things differently.
I personally called it both.


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Ammer wrote:
Well, considering the case, I will re-edit some of my ratings.

Therefore, Robert, don't take my final ratings into account yet.


Alrighty :)


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Interesting. I actually didn't expect to go the first round, but what can you do? The subtext 'Arise' refers to both the sun, and the viewer. It's supposed to convey 'Arise and greet the day', and 'Arise, morning sun'. I left it as one word, since I've always felt that fewer words are more powerful than long sentences. I will be entering the next one, so finish quick. ;) I wish the best to all remaining contestants, and I hope everyone enjoys the game. :)


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With all due respect VeraX but most of your ratings seem to be along the lines of "I don't like it". I'd personally prefer for you to tell us how we could improve on the subtext.


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Twinkle wrote:
With all due respect VeraX but most of your ratings seem to be along the lines of "I don't like it". I'd personally prefer for you to tell us how we could improve on the subtext.


I can't help but agree.
I would love if you provide more insight VeraX on my subtext (as well as other subtexts) besides telling me that you did not like it and you wouldn't look up my use of a good adjective...just because. o_O
I have no intention of sounding flame-y, it just seemed a bit vague in my opinion, I will not restrain your right to tell me that my subtext was not good.


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Judges Notes:
This was the hardest first round I have ever had to do. There weren’t any subtexts that were standing out saying ‘ELIMINATE ME’. If we can have subtexts with this quality for the entire contest, it will be a good one! Remember guys, synonyms are your friend. Using original words will win you big points with lots of the judges, but remember, if you use too many interesting words, you may lose the intention of your subtext so be careful. And Dawn, sorry, but I like fades.

_jade_em_
The skies ignited
I like this one quite a bit. I think it captures the feeling of the sky quite well. I also like your choice of words. Nice job.

.:Requiem:.
Fire bathes the western skies
I like this one too. Like I said to __jade_em_, it captures the image well. I also like your choice of words. Excellent!

amarise
Arise
I’m never a big fan of one word subtexts; I just don’t think they can usually capture enough of the image. This one, I don’t think is an exception. I just don’t think it captures enough of the image. You have all the colours, the horizon, the clouds, that you have just seemed to ignore.

Anubis
Alluring Sunset
I like this one. I like your choice ‘Alluring’ although, the word ‘sunset’ right after it seems a little weak. A synonym for ‘sunset’ or a metaphor would have been nice.

Blk Mage
The Fiery Birth of A New Day
I really like this one. I like how you used ‘fiery’ and ‘birth’ to describe the sunrise. I really think this captures the image well.

Fiddelysquat
*fade in* The dawn of a new day... *fade out*
I really think this is a good signature for fades. I know some people don’t like them, but sometimes they really work. This is one of those times. Without the fades, this subtext would have been kind of dull, but the fades really add to it, almost as if the subtext is mimicking what the sun does, disappearing and reappearing.

Forest_Majesty
Ethereal Blaze -fade out--fade in- Burning True
Very nice, like I said to Fidds, the fade really works well on this signature. I also like your choice of words, very nice!

Jen
Land of the Rising Sun.
I don’t know if this is a play on ‘House of the Rising Sun’, but I like it. I like how you incorporated the bit of land on the signature, into your subtext. I do think you could have substituted ‘Land’ for another word though.

Kidwaiy
Can't set if the sun doesn't rise
I don’t like this one at all, sorry. It is confusing and you have to read it a few times to figure it out. Also, with the word ‘sun’ in it, it just makes it even more confusing. It would have been better if it was ‘Can't set if it doesn't rise’

mjrinella
Sunny Moments are life's quiet treasures
I like the ‘life's quiet treasures’ part, but in my opinion the signature isn’t really a ‘sunny moment’. A ‘suuny moment’ to me is sitting on a beach with the sun, or tanning, not really the sunrise/set. Another little thing, I don’t like how you capitalized the first two words, but not the rest, that doesn’t look the best.

paperfacesX022
As the sun rises . . . *fade* as the sun falls . . .
I like how you used the fade, and incorporated both the possibility of it being a sunset or a sunrise. Nice.

pattypus
Saying goodnight to the world
I don’t know about this one. I mean, I like how you went in a different direction then everyone else, but I just don’t think it sounds right. I think it is the ‘Saying goodnight’ part; it just seems like something out of a kid’s book. A synonym for ‘Saying’ would have been nice.

sirclucky
Sailor's worst fear*fade out* Lovers draw near
Excellent! I like how it is different, I like the rhymes, and the reference to the little rhyme thing is nice.

Stephanie
*fade in* The end of a perfect night...... *fade out* * fade in* The beginning of a brand new day...
I like this, the fades work well, and you incorporated the possibility of either a sunset or sunrise. Nice!


Twinkle
Light on the horizon.
I like how you mentioned the horizon here, that’s nice. I think you could have used a better word for ‘Light’ though, ‘Light’ just seems so boring. Brightness, brilliance, radiance, all other great words you could have used!

WIS
Setting the skies ablaze
This is similar to other peoples, but it isn’t bad. I like the fire aspect, and I really like ‘ablaze’

Xil
..Our fates fold in the half sun..
Oooo Poetic. I like the subtext a lot, I think it fits well. The periods at the beginning are unneeded, and the periods at the end should either have another added, or be scraped completely. Besides that though, good job!

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1. Kidwaiy
2. amarise
3. mjrinella


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