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So its okay for cattle to be exterminated in their thousands, heck, maybe millions, to feed you...

And its okay for numerous species of fish to be wiped out in the name of a good Fish And Chips...

And its hunky dorey to eat, say, Giraffe and Ostrich and anything else thats "exotic"

But Choosing the one that you want is a crime against nature, and the mini-terrorist organisation that is PETA (No. Really, officially classed and everything) is right to force a bussiness to shut Lobster farming down.

Okay then.

It's not the choosing the way it's done... it's how it's done. Cattle, fish, sheep, etc, are normally tried to be kept happy before they die. Meat TASTES better when it's happy. (Honestly). Stress on animals that makes them unhappy before they die makes them release an enzyme or something that makes the meat taste not so good.

I don't think anyones contesting eating Lobster (well maybe they are), and I mean people choose their own lobsters at the market all the time. People KILL their own food all the time (farmers, hunters... ) thusly choosing their food. It's the fact that it's for entertainment and it's involving using an arcade game to do so.

Yes, because no one has ever gone hunting for pheasent or "sport"
Using some weird arcade game to get a Lobster is evil, but the manner in which cattle are killed is fine?
Ever actually seen an Aboitoir?
They are far less pretty than an arcade machine.

I think the whole thing is stupid (just because the idea is stupid, naturally), but I don't see what the big deal is. They're going to end up dead anyway (unless someone sticks it in their pocket and keeps it as a pet), if people want to do aomething strange to their food before they eat it, so be it. If I were lower in the food chain and I were going to be eaten, it wouldn't make much of a difference after I realized that I was going to die anyway.

Exactly.
What does it matter what we do? We're doing a fine job of wiping out the only other sentient species as is (You heard it here first, Dolphins are officially sentient.) So what does it really matter if we're a bit harsh towards some crustacean that can't even defend itself against us.

Survival of the most adaptable.

My brother kills pigs for a living. I have seen him at work, and I have toured the facility. I live in the area of the world with the highest concentration of feed lots and of slaughter houses for both cattle and horses. I have gone hunting. There is a mass difference between hunting for sport, and hunting for food. I know people here whom I go to school with who hunt for food, because if they didn't, they'd have no meat for the winter (ah... Alberta).
Most people who hunt for food, have more respect for the animals they kill when they're actually doing it because they need to do it, rather then doing it because the head will look nice and spiffy on their wall. But thats a whole other debate, left for the debate board.
Slaughter houses may be far less pretty then an arcade game, but the whole point behind them is different. They're not meant to be amusing.

So, it's fine to. Well. I assume you know what goes on in one now, but not okay to poke an animal that Isn't self aware anyway?
A Lobster has no concept of pain, merely inconvenience.

Jabbing a lobster is about akin to me missing my bus in the morning.
I survive, so will it (until its thrown into a vat of boiling water and slowly cooked anyway)

Well, pain IS inconvenience, isnt it? Do you have any scientific proof they cant feel pain? And its not the same as missing a bus.. theres no suffering involved in that.



If you look it it that way, then it doesnt matter if we murder, physically abuse etc other humans either, becausw we're all going to die.

Okay. I am totally sorry I posted this. I thought it was an interesting article that would get interesting responces, but that failed very quickly. Sorry.

Next mod that sees this, please lock the topic!

Twisting my words now arent we

I am sentient.
Much as it pains me to say this, Humans are sentient.
We feel pain, we feel suffering and agony.

It is "Inhumane" to make another sentient being suffer.
Dolphins, and humans are sentient.
Ergo; It is "Inhumane" to make Dolphins and humans suffer.

Ofcourse we are also Xenophobic apes who would gladly watch everyone about us die to save our own butts, the whole "Monkey sphere" Theory.

Lobsters - Not sentient.
Dont suffer.
Dont feel pain or agony.
So they are fair game.

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