Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:10 am
Ive just completed a battledome set, and I'm having some fun with it. However, I've just learned how to quickly make neopoints through auctioning and restocking, and so I can afford to upgrade in the near future.
The main problem I'm having right now with my set is the lack of a freezer or bomb. BFC may be a choice in the future, though I'm not too terribly a fan of % freezers in 2p (which is what I'm focusing on). Also, the only bomb thats worthwhile is Honey Potion, which will be out of my price range for a while.
Stats-
Species: Shoyru (may change to species with 50% healer, Kacheek, Elephante, etc.)
Level: 30
Health: 56/56 (currently training)
Strength: 55
Defence: 55
Equipment:
Golden Compass
Wand of Cloudy Storms
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
The Scarab Ring is probably what needs to go the most, but is there anything I should upgrade to before I make the haul for a Honey Potion? (My current budget really isn't an issue, as my income is pretty good and this is for the future.)
By the way, to the poster above me, unless you have some emotional attachment to that shield, I would sell it for some serious cash.
The main problem I'm having right now with my set is the lack of a freezer or bomb. BFC may be a choice in the future, though I'm not too terribly a fan of % freezers in 2p (which is what I'm focusing on). Also, the only bomb thats worthwhile is Honey Potion, which will be out of my price range for a while.
Stats-
Species: Shoyru (may change to species with 50% healer, Kacheek, Elephante, etc.)
Level: 30
Health: 56/56 (currently training)
Strength: 55
Defence: 55
Equipment:
Golden Compass
Wand of Cloudy Storms
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
The Scarab Ring is probably what needs to go the most, but is there anything I should upgrade to before I make the haul for a Honey Potion? (My current budget really isn't an issue, as my income is pretty good and this is for the future.)
By the way, to the poster above me, unless you have some emotional attachment to that shield, I would sell it for some serious cash.
Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:24 pm
You mean the space faerie one?Mabey I should sell it because everyone thinks there's going to be a big war.SeulementUn wrote:Ive just completed a battledome set, and I'm having some fun with it. However, I've just learned how to quickly make neopoints through auctioning and restocking, and so I can afford to upgrade in the near future.
The main problem I'm having right now with my set is the lack of a freezer or bomb. BFC may be a choice in the future, though I'm not too terribly a fan of % freezers in 2p (which is what I'm focusing on). Also, the only bomb thats worthwhile is Honey Potion, which will be out of my price range for a while.
Stats-
Species: Shoyru (may change to species with 50% healer, Kacheek, Elephante, etc.)
Level: 30
Health: 56/56 (currently training)
Strength: 55
Defence: 55
Equipment:
Golden Compass
Wand of Cloudy Storms
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
The Scarab Ring is probably what needs to go the most, but is there anything I should upgrade to before I make the haul for a Honey Potion? (My current budget really isn't an issue, as my income is pretty good and this is for the future.)
By the way, to the poster above me, unless you have some emotional attachment to that shield, I would sell it for some serious cash.
Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:10 pm
Yeah. Check the Trading Post for it, atm the lowest posted price is 450k, next being 600k. Apparently it's very rare, cause its not nearly good enough to be that expensive. Personally, I've never seen that shield before, I'm just going off of what people want for it.
Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:07 pm
Catch-up time!
Your first pet is better, but neither is strong enough for the henchmen. They are beatable at strength 55 IF you have awesome weapons, and at strength 85 if you have good weapons. Your weapons are pretty good, so you're mostly going to need to train, or wait (quite a while) for the lab to raise your strength to 85. I'll assume you're not going to bother with defence at all, which I don't really recommend... but if you plan to do 1-player only, you can get by. You just won't be able to use any shields or dual-duties and will have to rely on full blockers like your ring or percentage blockers like downsize!.
Also, get rid of that bronze scorchstone! It's useless for both of your pets. Greater Healing Scroll heals 50 hit points and is much, much cheaper. Here's the set you should get:
Ring of the Lost
Stone Club (buyable)
Greater Healing Scroll (buyable, cheap)
Downsize! (buyable, cheap)
Purple Sticky Hand
Snowglobe Staff
2x one-use bomb, like a snowball or muffin, or a reflector or blocker or whatever
Eventually, you should also grab a Honey Potion, the best bomb until you're up in the 16+ icon weapon range.
Faerie abilities are a MUST, an absolute must. In my first post on this thread, I explained what each of them do. Basically, you can use probably two on full strength (usually burrow and sink) and one on medium (I usually use restore or regeneration, but it depends) during a battle. When you use one, it takes up some of the power in the green power bar beneath your pet. You do not want that power to go to 0, because if it does, nothing in the drop-down box, even your species ability and fierce, will have an effect.
Okay, your 85 boost is adequate to beat them, but your weapons aren't. These are the first really tough challengers in DoN; a lot of people have touble with them. You're probably going to need a stronger weapon like one of the new 9-iconers (Stone Club, Ice Club, Golden Compass (which I recommend, as it's a dual-duty), Pike Pike, etc.). And you're going to need a freezer; even a cheap one like Snowglobe Staff will do. And train that level up to 50 to get berserk.
Weapons:
9-iconer
Cloudy Wand of Storms
Snowglobe Staff
Oriental Fighting Fan (1-use bomb)
Thick Smoke Bomb (1-use full blocker)
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
Leaf Shield
Round 1: Snowglobe Staff (withdraw and heal if freeze fails), Downsize!, best species ability
2: Two strongest weapons (9-iconer and 1-use bomb), berserk
3: Two strongest weapons (9-iconer and wand), burrow
4: Two strongest weapons, sink
5: Strongest weapon, thick smoke bomb (only if you know you can kill them this round), berserk
You could switch it up a bit -- if you feel you need to heal, you could use the GHS while burrowing or sinking instead of using two weapons. If you think you could get by in one of the rounds with a leaf shield instead of burrow or sink, you could try that. But you probably should shell out for the one-use bomb and the thick smoke bomb, plus upgrade to one of the 9-iconers (a few of which are actually buyable) if you want to continue on in DoN.
Also, I listed all abilities worth having in my first post on this thread.
First of all, I listed the abilities worth having in my first post on this thread, so check that. And you should definitely train -- keep your strength and defence balanced and always try to have more hit points than either str or def. If you want to get as many stats as you can for the cheapest price, take advantage of the fact that hit points can be trained to 3x your level. Train exactly like this:
Level to 20 (one codestone)
Strength and Defence to 40
Hit Points to 60
Level to 40 (two codestones)
Str and Def to 80
HP to 120
Level to 80 (three codestones)
Str and Def to 160
HP to 200 (be careful here -- note that the next pay level starts 20 levels later, not 40 like before, so you can't train the max 3x)
Level to 100 (four codestones)
Str and Def to 200
HP to 240
Level to 120 (five codestones)
Str and Def to 240
HP to 300
Level to 150 (six codestones)
etc. I'm sure you can figure it out from here.
As for weapons: okay, sell that shield! I'll suggest a much cheaper one below that blocks the same type and amount of icons as it, plus three of an extra type. I'll assume you can get a couple hundred thousand at least, so I'll suggest a decent set.
Stone Club
Ice Club (or Golden Compass, if you're feeling spendy -- it's great)
Red Scorchstone (upgrade to Greater Healing Scroll when you hit 50 hp)
Green Frost Cannon (or Snowglobe Staff, which freezes twice as often)
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak (blocks different icon types than shield)
Scarab Ring (it's still good up to at LEAST the 35 boosts, even 55)
One-use bomb like a good snowball or muffin
Good dual-duties, if you like those, are Cloudy Wand of Storms and Frozen Wand of Crystals, so maybe eventually look into one of those. You will also need a Honey Potion in the future, maybe when you hit the 55 boosts. At the moment, I suggest you train up to the 35 boosts in strength and defence and buy the weapon set I suggested above... then worry about upgrading again after you've trained to 55.
That looks like a pretty good set, so a Honey Potion is probably the next thing you should add, yeah. You could also exchange the Leaf Shield for a dual-duty like Frozen Wand of Crystals if you like. Then you could use it and your wand of storms when people came at you with water and earth, getting a lot more attack icons in while still blocking almost as much as leaf shield. Then you could keep the scarab ring around for fire and phys defence, and would be able to block all icon types (which is very nice in 2-player). So:
Golden Compass
Cloudy Wand of Storms
Frozen Wand of Crystals
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Mystical White Cloak
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
As for freezers... perhaps you should think of changing your pet to a Lenny? The mutant Lenny is a nice fierce-looking battle pet, and Lennies have an awesome species healer (bag of Lenny healing seeds, 50%) and two H4K-esque 100% freezers (Lenny Ray Gun OR Entangling Lenny Lasso, whichever is cheaper). Now, of course those are all pretty expensive, but you can get both a healer and freezer for the price of one H4K Helmet (or maybe even less than that), so it's worth looking into.
I think that's everyone...
abloomfi wrote:I easily defeated the witch doctor, but now i have the meerca henchmen to defeat but can't even get passed their second hit! It seems like such a big gap between enimies. Any advice on weapons, training (although most done by lab ray, i could train if required).
Your first pet is better, but neither is strong enough for the henchmen. They are beatable at strength 55 IF you have awesome weapons, and at strength 85 if you have good weapons. Your weapons are pretty good, so you're mostly going to need to train, or wait (quite a while) for the lab to raise your strength to 85. I'll assume you're not going to bother with defence at all, which I don't really recommend... but if you plan to do 1-player only, you can get by. You just won't be able to use any shields or dual-duties and will have to rely on full blockers like your ring or percentage blockers like downsize!.
Also, get rid of that bronze scorchstone! It's useless for both of your pets. Greater Healing Scroll heals 50 hit points and is much, much cheaper. Here's the set you should get:
Ring of the Lost
Stone Club (buyable)
Greater Healing Scroll (buyable, cheap)
Downsize! (buyable, cheap)
Purple Sticky Hand
Snowglobe Staff
2x one-use bomb, like a snowball or muffin, or a reflector or blocker or whatever
Eventually, you should also grab a Honey Potion, the best bomb until you're up in the 16+ icon weapon range.
Faerie abilities are a MUST, an absolute must. In my first post on this thread, I explained what each of them do. Basically, you can use probably two on full strength (usually burrow and sink) and one on medium (I usually use restore or regeneration, but it depends) during a battle. When you use one, it takes up some of the power in the green power bar beneath your pet. You do not want that power to go to 0, because if it does, nothing in the drop-down box, even your species ability and fierce, will have an effect.
Redmanfubar wrote:Cranberry,
I followed your advise and bulked up a bit. I am getting killed by level 8 on defenders of myopia the villain is Mecca henchmen. What do I need to do and can you give me any advise on which abilities are worth using in the battledome.
Okay, your 85 boost is adequate to beat them, but your weapons aren't. These are the first really tough challengers in DoN; a lot of people have touble with them. You're probably going to need a stronger weapon like one of the new 9-iconers (Stone Club, Ice Club, Golden Compass (which I recommend, as it's a dual-duty), Pike Pike, etc.). And you're going to need a freezer; even a cheap one like Snowglobe Staff will do. And train that level up to 50 to get berserk.
Weapons:
9-iconer
Cloudy Wand of Storms
Snowglobe Staff
Oriental Fighting Fan (1-use bomb)
Thick Smoke Bomb (1-use full blocker)
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
Leaf Shield
Round 1: Snowglobe Staff (withdraw and heal if freeze fails), Downsize!, best species ability
2: Two strongest weapons (9-iconer and 1-use bomb), berserk
3: Two strongest weapons (9-iconer and wand), burrow
4: Two strongest weapons, sink
5: Strongest weapon, thick smoke bomb (only if you know you can kill them this round), berserk
You could switch it up a bit -- if you feel you need to heal, you could use the GHS while burrowing or sinking instead of using two weapons. If you think you could get by in one of the rounds with a leaf shield instead of burrow or sink, you could try that. But you probably should shell out for the one-use bomb and the thick smoke bomb, plus upgrade to one of the 9-iconers (a few of which are actually buyable) if you want to continue on in DoN.
Also, I listed all abilities worth having in my first post on this thread.
kcharles wrote:I need a new battle set.I do 1 player battles most.I will spend 100k.
First of all, I listed the abilities worth having in my first post on this thread, so check that. And you should definitely train -- keep your strength and defence balanced and always try to have more hit points than either str or def. If you want to get as many stats as you can for the cheapest price, take advantage of the fact that hit points can be trained to 3x your level. Train exactly like this:
Level to 20 (one codestone)
Strength and Defence to 40
Hit Points to 60
Level to 40 (two codestones)
Str and Def to 80
HP to 120
Level to 80 (three codestones)
Str and Def to 160
HP to 200 (be careful here -- note that the next pay level starts 20 levels later, not 40 like before, so you can't train the max 3x)
Level to 100 (four codestones)
Str and Def to 200
HP to 240
Level to 120 (five codestones)
Str and Def to 240
HP to 300
Level to 150 (six codestones)
etc. I'm sure you can figure it out from here.
As for weapons: okay, sell that shield! I'll suggest a much cheaper one below that blocks the same type and amount of icons as it, plus three of an extra type. I'll assume you can get a couple hundred thousand at least, so I'll suggest a decent set.
Stone Club
Ice Club (or Golden Compass, if you're feeling spendy -- it's great)
Red Scorchstone (upgrade to Greater Healing Scroll when you hit 50 hp)
Green Frost Cannon (or Snowglobe Staff, which freezes twice as often)
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak (blocks different icon types than shield)
Scarab Ring (it's still good up to at LEAST the 35 boosts, even 55)
One-use bomb like a good snowball or muffin
Good dual-duties, if you like those, are Cloudy Wand of Storms and Frozen Wand of Crystals, so maybe eventually look into one of those. You will also need a Honey Potion in the future, maybe when you hit the 55 boosts. At the moment, I suggest you train up to the 35 boosts in strength and defence and buy the weapon set I suggested above... then worry about upgrading again after you've trained to 55.
SeulementUn wrote:The Scarab Ring is probably what needs to go the most, but is there anything I should upgrade to before I make the haul for a Honey Potion? (My current budget really isn't an issue, as my income is pretty good and this is for the future.)
That looks like a pretty good set, so a Honey Potion is probably the next thing you should add, yeah. You could also exchange the Leaf Shield for a dual-duty like Frozen Wand of Crystals if you like. Then you could use it and your wand of storms when people came at you with water and earth, getting a lot more attack icons in while still blocking almost as much as leaf shield. Then you could keep the scarab ring around for fire and phys defence, and would be able to block all icon types (which is very nice in 2-player). So:
Golden Compass
Cloudy Wand of Storms
Frozen Wand of Crystals
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Mystical White Cloak
Downsize!
Greater Healing Scroll
As for freezers... perhaps you should think of changing your pet to a Lenny? The mutant Lenny is a nice fierce-looking battle pet, and Lennies have an awesome species healer (bag of Lenny healing seeds, 50%) and two H4K-esque 100% freezers (Lenny Ray Gun OR Entangling Lenny Lasso, whichever is cheaper). Now, of course those are all pretty expensive, but you can get both a healer and freezer for the price of one H4K Helmet (or maybe even less than that), so it's worth looking into.
I think that's everyone...
Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:26 am
Cranberry wrote:Just to answer some of the common questions right off the bat:
The useful abilities everyone should have:
Burrow (blocks 97.5% of all earth, air, water, fire, phys)
Sink (blocks 97.5% of all light, dark, water, fire, phys)
Drain Life (drains 10% of opponent's hit points)
Regeneration/Restore/Healing Vapour (33% healers -- pick one; they're equal -- more useful for pets with lots of HP)
Fiery Gaze/Diamond Dust (freezers -- pick one; dust is slightly better)
Steam Shield (blocks all light for one turn)
Water Breathing/Boil (pick one; blocks all water for one turn)
Quench (blocks all fire for one turn)
Heal (for weaker pets with less than 50 HP or so)
It might sound a stupid question but what faerie do i need to take to get each of these?
Also, thanks for your advice, i went and got some better weapons and will get abilities soon.
Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:15 pm
Ok, I don't really plan on buying things now, since upgrades are expensive for me, but I'd like to know what I should get/save for/restock. (About one level up) Right now I'm at the snowbeast, so I'm just hoping to get some more hp increases for a while and just waiting. I only really do 1 player battles too. I've got 5 million right now, but remember this is just to build upon and not to buy right now.
-Lupe, lab pet-
Level : 54
Health : 209 / 209
Strength : ULTIMATE (154)
Defence : beyond godly
Ring of the Lost
Greater Healing Scroll
Downsize!
Double Dryer
Honey Potion
Sword of Apocalypse
Halo of Devilpuss
Scroll of Freezing/snowglobe staff
-Lupe, lab pet-
Level : 54
Health : 209 / 209
Strength : ULTIMATE (154)
Defence : beyond godly
Ring of the Lost
Greater Healing Scroll
Downsize!
Double Dryer
Honey Potion
Sword of Apocalypse
Halo of Devilpuss
Scroll of Freezing/snowglobe staff
Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:48 pm
abloomfi, you can see a list of all abilities (by faerie) here. Make sure your pet is at the proper level before trying to bless it.
Mostly I would suggest a 100% freezer (not having to withdraw or worry about your expensive breakable freezer vanishing for good is so worth it -- the day I moved up from Ancient Lupe Wand to Freezing Potion was a happy one!). If you want to hold off on that for a while, I'd suggest a Bow of Destiny to pair with that RotL, and an Ancient Lupe Wand to use for important battles until your species changes again (it breaks less often and is much cheaper than the Scroll of Freezing).
Greater Healing Scroll is also too weak for you now, but the only other alternatives are species healers, and since your pet is a lab pet, those won't help. Make sure you have the faerie ability regeneration (or restore, or healing vapour) to help you out.
So eventually I'd aim for this:
Bow of Destiny
Ring of the Lost
Sword of Apocalypse
Honey Potion
H4000 Helmet (Ancient Lupe Wand/your current freezers for now)
Greater Healing Scroll
Downsize!
Double Dryer (or other good reflector, depending on opponent)
mogster500 wrote:Ok, I don't really plan on buying things now, since upgrades are expensive for me, but I'd like to know what I should get/save for/restock. (About one level up) Right now I'm at the snowbeast, so I'm just hoping to get some more hp increases for a while and just waiting. I only really do 1 player battles too. I've got 5 million right now, but remember this is just to build upon and not to buy right now.
-Lupe, lab pet-
Level : 54
Health : 209 / 209
Strength : ULTIMATE (154)
Defence : beyond godly
Ring of the Lost
Greater Healing Scroll
Downsize!
Double Dryer
Honey Potion
Sword of Apocalypse
Halo of Devilpuss
Scroll of Freezing/snowglobe staff
Mostly I would suggest a 100% freezer (not having to withdraw or worry about your expensive breakable freezer vanishing for good is so worth it -- the day I moved up from Ancient Lupe Wand to Freezing Potion was a happy one!). If you want to hold off on that for a while, I'd suggest a Bow of Destiny to pair with that RotL, and an Ancient Lupe Wand to use for important battles until your species changes again (it breaks less often and is much cheaper than the Scroll of Freezing).
Greater Healing Scroll is also too weak for you now, but the only other alternatives are species healers, and since your pet is a lab pet, those won't help. Make sure you have the faerie ability regeneration (or restore, or healing vapour) to help you out.
So eventually I'd aim for this:
Bow of Destiny
Ring of the Lost
Sword of Apocalypse
Honey Potion
H4000 Helmet (Ancient Lupe Wand/your current freezers for now)
Greater Healing Scroll
Downsize!
Double Dryer (or other good reflector, depending on opponent)
Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:22 pm
Ok, thanks! I was hoping I would win the bow, but the sword isn't that bad.
I was hoping I would win the bow, but the sword isn't that bad.
Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:48 am
Cranberry wrote:Heal can heal you 1-57 HP (random). I think you can use it more than once (not sure), but it uses up some of your power, so you may not want to (nice to save some power for burrow and maybe drain life). You can use two weapons with it; it's just the thing you select from the drop-down box.
In my opinion - no way worth it. Wasting power for a random heal? too variable.
Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:48 pm
The shield is a HTS item. 
If anyone you know needs one tell me.
If anyone you know needs one tell me.
Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:25 pm
Species : Lupe
Colour : Darigan
Gender : Female
Age : 359 days
Level : 2
Health : 44 / 44
Mood : delighted!
Hunger : bloated
Strength : titanic
Defence : tough
Move : mach 4
Intelligence : average
Abilities
Equipment
The Astronomy Club
Scarab Ring
Scarab Ring
Greater Healing Scroll
Purple Sticky Hand
Leaf Shield
Green Frost Cannon
i need to beat mueka and i want to spend no more than 20k, if you can help me i would love it
Colour : Darigan
Gender : Female
Age : 359 days
Level : 2
Health : 44 / 44
Mood : delighted!
Hunger : bloated
Strength : titanic
Defence : tough
Move : mach 4
Intelligence : average
Abilities
Equipment
The Astronomy Club
Scarab Ring
Scarab Ring
Greater Healing Scroll
Purple Sticky Hand
Leaf Shield
Green Frost Cannon
i need to beat mueka and i want to spend no more than 20k, if you can help me i would love it
Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:51 pm
Meuka has the 55 strength and defence boosts, and yours are much lower. I am afraid you're going to have to train, probably to 35 strength (and defence, if you want to use those dual-duty scarab rings properly) before you can beat him. You may be able to do it at the 20 boosts thanks to your high HP, although you might need better weapons. The leaf shield is good defence, and you should also use that sticky hand to take his downsize power plus. An ancient lupe wand for a guaranteed freeze would also be great. Basically, use this strategy, but NOT NOW because you're not strong enough yet and you will be throwing your NP away. Wait until you have at LEAST 20 strength, and it would be great if you were also level 30, so you could get the faerie ability sink.
1: ancient lupe wand, purple sticky hand, burrow
2: two strongest weapons, fierce attack
3: two strongest weapons, sink
4: best weapon, downsize power plus, fierce attack
5: best weapon, leaf shield, species ability
repeat #5, or heal if you need to, or whatever.
1: ancient lupe wand, purple sticky hand, burrow
2: two strongest weapons, fierce attack
3: two strongest weapons, sink
4: best weapon, downsize power plus, fierce attack
5: best weapon, leaf shield, species ability
repeat #5, or heal if you need to, or whatever.
thanks
Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:07 pm
thanks cranberry, i know i can beat him with these stats only with some more levels, because my friend beat him and he was weaker than me
Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:06 pm
Did your friend have more hit points, or better weapons? (Some 9-iconers, maybe, or some strong one-use bombs? Did he use a thick smoke bomb or anything?) If so, I could possibly see him winning at that level. But with your stats and your weapons, no. You need to train your strength, at least. Training levels alone does nothing except make your pet able to be blessed by faeries, and grants you the power to berserk at level 50. Except for that, level alone does not add any power to your attack.
Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:58 pm
he used scarab rings and water muffins
these were his stats
level: 13
Hit Points : 44 / 44
Strength : 16
Defence : 20
Movement : lightning
these were his stats
level: 13
Hit Points : 44 / 44
Strength : 16
Defence : 20
Movement : lightning