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Unfortunately, I'm...still negative. Very much. :\ I feel really really guilty for polluting this thread with bad opinions, but I refuse to let go of the last bit of hope I have.

I was all onboard with this episode. The cue cards, the pirate dude, the smoke monster...but nearing the second half of the episode, I came to the realisation that they would kill Eko. There goes all three Traffic Transgressing Tailies.

Okay, first the positives, before this gets out of my mind. The cue card scene made me like the Others plot for the first time. Bringing the three for a coup seems interesting enough. As for the pirate dude, what can I say? I have no idea who he is, where he is, and I wanna know! Redemption for the things I complained about before...

...But back to Eko. Why kill off the character with the most potential, the most mysterious background? It's just...words cannot describe how angry I am. It's not just because I like his character though. It basically renders the second season useless, with all the Tailies gone except for the absent Bernard. On a lesser note, it brings down my favourite-character-count.

Other irks- the new people continue to annoy. They better come up with a darn great cliffhanger next week, or I won't be returning in 13 weeks. It's like...I invested all this time over the past two years only to see one of my former favourite shows come to this. :(

[edit] Another point from another forum...where did Sayid come from? Did he come back from his trip so soon? O__o


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...But back to Eko. Why kill off the character with the most potential, the most mysterious background? It's just...words cannot describe how angry I am. It's not just because I like his character though. It basically renders the second season useless, with all the Tailies gone except for the absent Bernard. On a lesser note, it brings down my favourite-character-count.


Ask Ausiello on tvguide.com had an interview with the writers, and they basically said when the actor (I'm not attempting to spell his name and I'm too lazy to look it up) who plays Eko was signed, he only wanted to do a short story arc. That doesn't make me any happier, but it makes it more understandable.


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I read that article too...but I take it with a grain of salt. He said that for both Ana-Lucia and Libby several months ago. And you know how that story went.


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Lost Season 3 Startsin the UK this November, on Sky 1.
Which means it's not on Terrestrial TV.


Will it eventually air on C4?


Presumably so, but dont hold your breath on anything any time soon i'm afraid.
Sky does tend to do this, buy up a show in its third or fourth season.
Did it with 24 too as I recall (Not that I cared, as I didn't like that show and Have sky in my room anyway) but I can immagine how annoying it must be. :(


If you're not getting LOST in the UK, you can always watch it for free at ABC.com -- the episodes are usually on there a day after they air here in the US, so you can get them on Thursdays.


Nopes, it says you can only watch them if you live in the US and won't let you go any further :(


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Can anyone tell me why tonights episiode will be the last till Next Year!?!?!
I know they mean after the new year but why? what's the problem?


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Can anyone tell me why tonights episiode will be the last till Next Year!?!?!
I know they mean after the new year but why? what's the problem?


There really isn't a problem; they decided to have two mini "seasons" this year. That way they don't have to have a lot of reruns interspersed throughtout the whole season.


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Can anyone tell me why tonights episiode will be the last till Next Year!?!?!
I know they mean after the new year but why? what's the problem?


There really isn't a problem; they decided to have two mini "seasons" this year. That way they don't have to have a lot of reruns interspersed throughtout the whole season.


Mini seasons. so what will they be playing in between? and when will it start up again?


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According to epguides - http://www.epguides.com/Lost/

That ep was the last episode until February 7th... sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :(


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Okay episode. At least Sawyer got some :P

Kate's backstory was okay. Best part was that Mal was back. <3 I always like seeing him around.

Not really much else to say at this point except, go Jack!


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I just found a great interview with Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof in Ask Ausiello. I'll put it in spoiler font, so that you guys can choose to or not to read it:

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Question: Can you give me a little tidbit on the super-secret twist that is supposedly going to blow us away on tonight's Lost finale?— Ben
Ausiello: I'll do you one better: I'll let Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse give it to you instead! In recognition of AA's 100th, the Lost EPs agreed to sit down and answer all of your burning questions, as well as offer a preview of tonight's fall finale and the remaining 16 episodes, kicking off Feb. 7. It's the best anniversary gift ever!

Hello!
Damon Lindelof: Congratulations on your 100th column.
Carlton Cuse: Yes, congratulations.

Thank you! We have limited time, so I'm going to cut right to the chase. More than anything, AA readers wanna know if Michael and/or Walt will appear this season.
Carlton: We have a very clear plan for this season, and I don't think we'll get back to Michael and Walt's story this season.

With Eko gone, you no longer have any African-American men in the cast.
Carlton: Harold Perrineau's story is not finished. He is not on the show currently, but I think everybody is very curious to know what happened to Michael and Walt, and we hope to get back to that story. That character is still out there in the Lost universe.

One frustration I'm hearing is that viewers don't understand why you would bring in new characters like Paolo (Rodrigo Santoro) and Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) when it seems like you're already having trouble servicing the original characters.
Damon: That's a legitimate concern, and I wouldn't say that we have difficulty servicing the initial cast. I do think that we acknowledge that the franchise of Lost — if there was one since we don't have bodies on gurneys or clients coming into law firms — is the introduction of new characters. We basically get two criticisms: One is that we're not with our main people enough, and the other is [that people are] sick and tired of seeing redundant flashback stories. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. And another criticism we've been getting since the very beginning of the show is, "How come we never hear from, or incorporate into the story, the other passengers, the ones who are sort of carrying logs around in the background?" Obviously we knew it'd be tricky starting to fold Rodrigo and Kiele into the show as if they'd been there all along. But it was an effort on our part to sort of deal with two out of those three criticisms. Although the inevitable, “Why aren't we spending more time with Claire instead of spending time with people we don't know yet?" was going to come up. We suffer the slings and arrows of criticisms at almost every creative turn, and again, it's all in the service of the uber-story that is Lost.

Personally, I'd be happy if the show just featured Matthew Fox, Michael Emerson and Elizabeth Mitchell every week.
Damon: We're going to spin them off. It's going to be called "Ben & Friends."

One other complaint I'm hearing this season is that new mysteries are being presented before old ones are solved. Can you say anything about that?
Carlton: We're always in this sort of balancing act. [We want] to keep the audience engaged by the underlying mysteries of the show, but we also want to try to answer questions and give people some satisfaction. And I think maybe the pendulum has swung a little too much into the “Well, we need more answers” category, and we try to be attentive to that. I think there are some upcoming episodes — after the break in the spring — that will answer a number of the open questions. We certainly plan to tell the audience this year how Locke got in the wheelchair.
Damon: We'll be getting a lot more detailed about what happened to Locke, Eko and Desmond following the immediate aftermath of the hatch exploding, imploding or potentially doing something else.
Carlton: We're doing a flashback story where you'll find out how Jack got his tattoos.
Damon: And we'll begin peeling back layers of who the Others are, how long they've been on the island, what their origins are. That's really the sort of uber-plot of Season 3. And here's the thing: At the end of season 2, we downloaded a hell of a lot of mythology in those last couple episodes. We explained why the plane crashed and whether or not the button was the real deal. But at the same time, every time we close one door we have to open up another or else we risk falling victim to the Twin Peaks curse, which is that once they told you who killed Laura Palmer, there was no reason to watch the show anymore.
Carlton: What you might also be feeling is that kind of sense that we're basically working on Episode 60, so that's a lot of hours to not know, “What's the nature of this island? Where is this island?" The overarching mysteries of Lost remain unanswered. But those questions have to remain unanswered until the show ends. That's something we don't know and we're not in control of when it is going to end. We will attempt to answer some of the transitory questions, but obviously, the big ones have to stay unanswered.

Will Adewale be back for that flashback episode you just referred to?
Damon: It might not necessarily be a flashback episode.

But you said we're going to go back and find out what happened right after the hatch imploded or whatever.
Damon: Yes, we are. It might be a flashback, but we're not going to tell you how that information gets relayed.
Carlton: It might be a flash-forward or a flash-sideways.
Damon: It will certainly be a flash-something.
Carlton: It could be a flash in the pan.
Damon: Look, here's the thing, Michael. We believe audiences aren't really asking, “When are we going to get our answers?” They're asking, "Are we going to get our answers?" And that's a very savvy question for them to be asking, because of the nature of the television business, it's sort of like, "Are they just stringing us along?" And all Carlton and I can say is that we are absolutely committed to giving you those answers. We know what the answers are, and we're telling them in the most creatively satisfying way for us as storytellers.

A reader named Denise sent in what I think is a really good question. When the plane crashed, Ben told Goodwin that if he ran he could be at the crash site in an hour. Now if they're on two different islands, how could he possibly do that? Walk on water?

Carlton: That island isn't necessarily where they live. It's not necessarily the same place where we saw those guys in the beginning of the teaser of the season premiere this year. I think that would be a very reasonable explanation as to how Goodwin and Ethan could run from the Others' home camp to the crash site.

OK. Another reader, Baude, wants to know when we're going to find out what happened to those kids who were abducted.
Damon: I think you'll begin to get a real sense of the answer to that question in about the second episode back after the break — a very real sense.

Does it tie in at all to the fact that Juliet's a fertility doctor?
Damon: I think that's a reasonable connection.

Is the guy with the eye patch going to figure prominently this season?
Carlton: Oh yeah.
Damon: Prominently.

And what about the outside world?
Damon: Obviously, this is the big sort of dangler from Season 2. We broke perspective off the island for the first time — at least that's what we're leading everybody to believe — and, certainly, that ball is in motion and rolling down the hill at a very fast rate. That is pretty much what begins to dominate Season 3 once we come back from the break. It takes a couple of episodes to get up to speed, but the fact that the island may have been seen is pretty much the entire story arc of the second half of the year.

Is it too soon to talk about what this season's "challah" will be?
Carlton: Yes.
Damon: We've already gone on record as saying we're going to call it the "matzo" this year.
Carlton: Our biggest concern on the show is that we're going to run out of Jewish bread products.
Damon: There aren't that many.

Is there going to be a sort of "challah"-type thing at the end of tonight's episode?
Carlton: No.
Damon: It's not a game-changer.
Carlton: But there's a good cliff-hanger.
Damon: It's a much more conventional cliff-hanger in the vein of Jack Bauer going on a slow boat to China.
Carlton: We believe it's a cliff-hanger that will make the audience want to come back and watch the show when it picks up in February.
Damon: It will hopefully be good enough to incur major frustration from the audience as to "How dare we go off the air for 13 weeks and leave them hanging in that fashion!"
Carlton: The angrier we make them the better the cliff-hanger is, I guess.

You guys have been quoted as saying you're going to drop a "bomb" during the second half of the season.
Damon: There are two bombs being dropped, one of which is a character bomb, and that will happen within the first three episodes after the break. And the other is a more significant story bomb, a game-changer, as it were, and that will happen shortly after.

A big thanks to Damon and Carlton for taking part in this historic AA! Now let's get to the rest of the scoop!

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Double post in order to bump this back up, because it is relevant again.

Only 2 and a half hours until the season starts back up again!

BTW, the flashback is going to be

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Spoiler for those who have not seen the new episode

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It was really nice seeing Ethan again. Even if he has let himself go a little...

Further proof that just because someone is dead, doesn't mean they're gone.

I'll wait for everyone to see it before I give all of my thoughts on the episode, but it was definitely the best I've seen so far this season.


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I assume it's safe to discuss this episode now, considering its tomorrow morning where I am.

Good episode, still getting a little disappointed by the supreme vagueness of there "answers" for things. Why are the others there? Still really don't know, some kind of genetic testing it seems.

Any thoughts as to why Ethan was at Juliets sisters place at the beginning of the show? What could he have been doing there?

And the other doctor guy from portland? Wasn't he Diego on the short lived Christina Applegate sitcom? Wonder why he isn't on the Island.

Interested to see the other regulars next week. Looks like it's gonna be Desmonds backstory. "dude can see the future"


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Ha, as soon as she said it would help if he got hit by a bus, I knew it was coming. XD Best part of the episode. I have to say, I like this episode, but I found it a little predictable. I wasn't worried about Ben b/c I figured he'd live (too valuable of a character not to), and I figured Danny would be the one to die (Which I was glad, he was getting annoying).
Love the cameo from Mac (from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia).

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And the other doctor guy from portland? Wasn't he Diego on the short lived Christina Applegate sitcom? Wonder why he isn't on the Island.

THe guy in the sitcom was this guy, Bruno Campos: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004797/
I don't think it's the same guy.

ETA: Aha! Tracked him down. His name is Nestor Carbonell.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004801/
Now where do I recognize him from... Scrubs![/url]


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Still waiting on it here in the UK (It's on Sunday unless they've lied to me again. Tricksy Sky!)
Still, I guess this is revenge for the UK getting the second half of Stargate seasons for the last decade before America. (We're two or three episodes ahead I think?)



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