The stock market after 1 year

[neobeth]

I dont think its a question of just playing games OR playing the stock market. By combining the two its possible to double your earnings. My example above is sort of skewed because it started with 0 shares, had almost no sales for the first 2 months, had a low sell point for the first 6 months and missed most buying or selling from june to august due to travel. This year I fully expect to earn 10-12 million in profits. Time will tell and will post next september with my results

[Daze]

Congrats Neobeth.

I wish I had kept a tab on my winnings.


I agree, the Stockmarket is a great investment - everyone should try it. It is easy and doesn't require skill, time or talent. Just buy as many shares as possible per day upto the maximum of 1000 and just wait until they make a profit.

You can sell at any time they reach above the starting price of 15 and you will have made a profit - how easy is that!! But to really capitalize, as everyone here agrees - wait and sell high!

I buy whatever shares are at 15 and just wait until they hit 60+. I do have a few million neopoints, so I am not missing the 15,000nps a day (not every day, because sometimes I don't find any at 15).

I have over 1 million nps invested in 16 different companies. Some companies I have been able to buy 11,000 shares - I don't mind the stocks rising and falling as it allows you to buy more of the same stock.


It can be slow going for those who don't have a lot of neopoints, but once you can spend 15,000 nps a day it is a very lazy way of earning big nps.

I do not play games for nps anymore - but just for getting highscores or avis and I only sell my shop stock when it is full - so maybe 2 weeks will pass before I make nps on my shop.

The last time I sold shares (that is, shares for 1 company when they hit 60), I made 1/2 million - way more than I would have playing games and less work than restocking!

[Siniri]

The proper comparison is to compare what you would otherwise do with the NP. You have 3 options that can earn you NP:
1) buy stock at 15k
2) put the 15k NP in the bank every day and earn interest.
3) buy stuff and sell it through your shop/TP/auction

Of course, there is the fourth option of spending the NP on stuff you want to buy (training, avvie stuff, collections, gallery, Neohome, BD equipment, books, etc.). But those can't earn you NP (well, I guess training might earn you more points in the next plot/war -- but that's hard to quantify).

How much could you make in Option 2? If you have the bank account with the highest interest rate (12.5%), you'll earn 356,033 NP in interest in a year. By adding 15k to your bank account every day, you'll end the year with 5.83m NP -- but most of that was the NP you invested since only a small fraction was interest.

I'm not going to try to compare Option 3 because it depends on internet and computer speed, skill, time, and luck. But buying stocks takes less than 10 seconds every day once the money is earned.

I used to sell at 30 because I felt like I could reinvest the NP in the stock market and have less NP tied up. But since I'm hardly earning anything in the bank compared to the market, I'm definitely going to raise my stock selling price. I suppose I could go on Neodaq and look at the history of each stock to determine an average length of time you have to hold for each selling price to determine the optimum selling price. Or has anyone already done this? Maybe I'll do it this weekend if anyone's interested...

[Daze]

The proper comparison is to compare what you would otherwise do with the NP. You have 3 options that can earn you NP:
1) buy stock at 15k
2) put the 15k NP in the bank every day and earn interest.
3) buy stuff and sell it through your shop/TP/auction

Of course, there is the fourth option of spending the NP on stuff you want to buy (training, avvie stuff, collections, gallery, Neohome, BD equipment, books, etc.). But those can't earn you NP (well, I guess training might earn you more points in the next plot/war -- but that's hard to quantify).

How much could you make in Option 2? If you have the bank account with the highest interest rate (12.5%), you'll earn 356,033 NP in interest in a year. By adding 15k to your bank account every day, you'll end the year with 5.83m NP -- but most of that was the NP you invested since only a small fraction was interest.

I'm not going to try to compare Option 3 because it depends on internet and computer speed, skill, time, and luck. But buying stocks takes less than 10 seconds every day once the money is earned.

I used to sell at 30 because I felt like I could reinvest the NP in the stock market and have less NP tied up. But since I'm hardly earning anything in the bank compared to the market, I'm definitely going to raise my stock selling price. I suppose I could go on Neodaq and look at the history of each stock to determine an average length of time you have to hold for each selling price to determine the optimum selling price. Or has anyone already done this? Maybe I'll do it this weekend if anyone's interested...

Well thought out.

On point 2, just one thing to add:

To be able to add 15,000 nps a day to the bank requires some time to play the games to make the nps.

It may only take 5 games(by 3 with maximum of 1000nps gained) or it may take more games (more time) with less np ratio per win and with the changing np ratios, this makes it harder to work out what games to play for least effort/time put in.

While time may not be an issue for some, for those who have little time to play games everyday, the stockmarket offers a great alternative or at least a great bonus on top of whatever nps you can add to the bank.


I have never thought of actually researching the Neodaq - but I would be interested in any findings you have, Siniri.

[Siniri]

Well, the Neodaq has some great data-mining stuff on it, so I just had to cut and paste into Excel. I used 3 years of data (1095 days). I assumed that each stock sale was a separate transaction, but it didn't really matter. Stocks blow the bank away at every sell-point (even assuming you have the highest interest-yielding account). There were a few stocks which never reached a particular sell-point in the three years. Of course, they could theoretically reach that sell-point less often than every three years. And of course past performance is no indication of future performance, etc., blah blah blah...

Since you can't buy more than 1000 stocks a day, if you're cash-rich (or income-rich), you might as well buy and hold for a very high sell-point. My research indicates that for the vast majority of stocks, it's almost silly to sell beneath 75, unless you need the NP for another purpose. {At the end of 3 years, at 12.5% interest rate, you only have an additional 7500 NP in the bank for every 15000 NP you put in at the beginning of those 3 years. If you buy 1000 shares at 15 and sell at 75, you'll have made 59,980 NP in profit; almost every stock has hit 75 in the past 3 years.}

Without further ado, here are the stocks that had a high between 60 and 75 in the past 3 years: CHPS, KSON, MPC, UNIB.
There were a bunch more that had a high between 75 and 100 in the past 3 years: ACFI, BB, BOTT, BUZZ, COFL, CYBU, EEEEE, FAER, KBAT, LDSC, NAKR, PDSS, PEOP, SKEI, SMUG, SSS, TAG, TPEG, TPP, TSRC, VPTS
Here are the only stocks with a high greater than 150 in the past 3 years (the rest would be between 100 and 150): DROO, HELT, LUPE, POWR, SKBD, SWNC, YIPP

Based on this research, I think I'll personally be making my own sell point 100 NP.

[3lla]

most of the time i forget to buy my 1000 stocks a day, but i already have a mammoth load of stocks sitting about so i think for now im just going to spend a while playing more and more games to earn the points.