Legends & Letters

Siniri · **Posted:** Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:45 pm

Thanks, Daze. That's immensely helpful. I was really only using the common cards until I started getting rare cards, on the early levels. And I had a daily that required me to use one in my party, but that's been switched out to using an epic, so I'm training Thogrin up. I can basically beat any of the current levels on hard with my current party, so I'm going to just upgrade as I can. Playing Maraqua levels 10-20 keeps giving me purple chests, so I'll cross my fingers and hope to get more epics. Meanwhile, I'm upgrading my best rares to the max so each battle is a little faster. I don't know how I'll get more legendaries...

Since my party leader is an Ixi, I don't really need another healer. If I were going to make another leader, it would be a Shoyru; there's one I can sometimes borrow that makes all the battles ridiculously easy (Draiks and Kougras are also good, but the Shoyru is better than the others at similar points, which I assume translates to level).

Edit: I've gotten lucky the past few days, picking up my second epic by focusing on levels 16-20 (hard) of KI and MQ (Captain Bloodhook, a self-healer, but hopefully a bit stronger than some of my rares), and this morning my silver chest rare token gave me my first non-leader legendary, Isca! I guess at this point I will create a second leader, since I probably don't need two group healers in a party.

At this point, my current party members are all maxed out except for my leader and Thogrin, who are both 3* level 30 (and awaiting me figuring out how to most cheaply ascend them to 4*). I won't have time to do that "math" until next week, so in the meantime I'm going to focus on leveling up Isca, because I know I'll want to use her once she's stronger. I like to level up with the level 6-10 cards awarded frequently in levels 11-20 of Maraqua on hard; they're also nice for selling to make NP quickly. My deck is nearly full thanks to a bunch of cards that I don't know whether they're better than my current party leaders, plus a few 2* ones I'm holding onto for ascending, but I'm able to play multiple levels in a row and accumulate 5+ at a time to train efficiently.

I'm up to 1226 gems, so I'll be able to buy a new leader when I'm ready to... Not sure what else I'd do with the gems, really. I have over 100 of each type of potion, and I can't imagine spending so many gems on a token that might give me a useless card...

Daze · **Posted:** Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:47 pm

You are doing really great Siniri.

I am glad you have started to find some really good cards. You will really notice the difference with Isca.

Do you remember how or when you went to a Silver Chest? I am still on Bronze and I have no idea why. It is frustrating me no end.
A couple of others on the L&L board said they had a silver chest as well and they just said they got it one day.
I can turn in 2 bronze chests in 24 hours due to all the backlog of quests that seem to accumulate.
Not that I get to do it every day, but I am still turning in at least 10 bronze chests a week.

These are my cards:

Leader 1: Acara maxed out (In the early version you could ascend with less cards).
Garin 4/5* (legendary)
Jacques maxed out (epic)
Caylis maxed out (legendary)

Leader 2: Draik 4/5* Can't max out as there are no 4* Earth cards (unless you can use a leader?) TNT needs to fix this.
Isca Maxed out (legendary)
Swordmaster Talek maxed out (epic)
Thogrin maxed out (epic)

Leader 3: Shoyru 3/5*
Karpoh maxed out (epic)
Lady Frosbite maxed out (rare) +
Garven Hale maxed out (rare) +

Shoyru Archer maxed out (rare) +

I am also holding 2* lightning cards ready to ascend a Sword Master Talek or Thogrin to then ascend my Shoyru.

+ Don't really need these now, but as I have the room I am keeping them for now. It really sucks how many great ascended cards I have had to sell off due to lack of room.
As you move from Common and Rare, to Epic or Legendary, the amount of cards to sell of is ridiculous.

Unless the game is very hard, I can't see needing anymore cards. I just want to find more Epics and Legendaries to just have the whole set.
It has become a little like Pokemon Go - Got to catch them all! LOL.

Siniri · **Posted:** Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:53 pm

I think I just upgraded to silver along with one of my (username) leveling ups. I'm really not sure how I got it. I just assumed you upgraded at some point automatically. (Now that I think about it, it actually appeared after getting a bronze one, fairly early on. It's actually purple, not silver, and it takes 150 N-gold to fill up.)

Here's a theory: I claimed several dailies before realizing I'd filled my bronze chest up... Maybe you can upgrade to silver by overfilling your bronze? I wouldn't want you to waste the coins, though - I'd assume once it's full, it just stops counting... Maybe someone will figure it out.

Or maybe it's because I do lots of combos? I use a lot of seven+ letter words. Sorry I can't be more helpful. (Note: I love how ninja and kid are not words, but I was just able to use "thuggee" :roll:

) Making great combos doesn't seem to increase your chances of getting gold and silver chests in battle; from what I can tell, it's random.

It sounds like you're mostly set! I'm sure they'll release more epics and legendaries when they release more lands. I guess I really do need a new leader, then - the ixi is leaf. You should be able to test whether you can use a leader to ascend by pretending to ascend a card of the same type and seeing if the leader is a choice (probably after swapping out that leader from all your parties, I'd imagine). Seems like a huge waste of diamonds, though.

I think I have enough rare cards to ascend my Ixi and Thogrin to 4*s, at least - I just need to decide which ones to use and level/ascend them up. It's going to be kind of expensive, but I've got nothing else to do until they release more levels. (I think I actually need more fires, and I'm focusing on Isca first, anyway...)

Edit: P.S. Thogrin kind of sucks. Lady Frostbite can still do more damage to all, and he takes a lot of damage. I feel like I do better in my battles with a 2* level 15 maraquan lancer than I do with my 3* level 30 Thogrin.

Daze · **Posted:** Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:05 pm

I had the same thought about over-filling my bronze chest. I will give it a go over the next couple of days. The bronze chest is rather worthless on an established account. The only items I like are the gems. I am in your situation as well Siniri, I have more than enough powerups, that I don't use (over 240 for each now!). The gold is piling up due to the selling cards I can't use. The common token cards are only worth 100 gold to sell, almost not worth the effort. LOL.

The Element of your characters may be coming into play.
I have not really noticed a difference, but apparently it is a 35% Strength/Weakness hit.

Water is strong against Fire,
Fire is strong against Earth,
Earth is strong against Lightning,
Lightning is strong against Water.

Whatever the case, I'm glad your cards are coming together for you.

The banned words (or at least words not in the dictionary) are weird. I can have 2 and 3 letter words that can only be abbreviations, but regular words are not allowed.
I can't actually think of any at the moment, but I am going to start a list.

Siniri · **Posted:** Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:17 am

The silver chests hand out 7x each potion, 2 common tokens, 1 rare token, 650 gold, and 8 gems, for 150 N. Don't the bronze fill up at 50 N and give out 3x each potion? I can't remember if they give rare tokens or not, though... It'd be worth it just for that, I think.

It could be the alignments, since Fire would be strong against Thogrin and weak against the Lancer (so 2x the effect). On the other hand, those bombers (lightning) would be strong against the Lancer and weak against Thogrin. I might actually have to make sets based on alignment. I think at some point I might upgrade my deck size, but first I want to figure out what sets I want and how to most easily collect them.

I noticed Val was a word today, and wondered if that could be short for Valine (an amino acid). I might try some of the others (TYR, PRO, ALA, GLY, ILE, etc.). I've noticed that more of the add-a-letter combos only give credit for the new letter and not the rest of the word with each update. It's really annoying. We really should be given credit for setting things up to build like that.

favorite 2-letter words:
RN (can become orn, then prefixed with t/w/b/c/m)
RD (I haven't found a single letter to put before/after this one...)
SR
TM
PM
MT
TV
VT
GA
WA
NC
NJ (kills building above/below - be careful not to block off a healing potion or bomb)
NY (but any has been nerfed)
(I haven't tried all the state abbreviations - I know AK/Alaska does NOT work.)

Daze · **Posted:** Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:31 am

Yep, Bronze Chests (which look gold) only need 50 N, and give 5 of each powerup, 2 common tokens, 250 gold coins, 5 gems.

The scoring is unique in that way. If you add a letter/s and the word has the same meaning, you only get credit for the letter/s (S, ED, ING).
If you can add a letter/s to make the word different, you get credit for the new word.
This is from the L&L guide on the petpage.

Sometimes, I enjoy a long game, and deliberately try stacking words only. It is fun to get creative. Usually though, my game is over in under 5 words on the hardest level.

Word (and card) games have always been my passion. I have always done crosswords and such, even as a child. Instead of a reading book, I used to take word puzzle books on holiday or car trips. We had scrabble and card games for our game nights.

*As an aside, I passed this passion on to my children, and we often still have game nights.
Just last week, we all met up at my son's house and played Family Feud (what a hoot!) and scrabble.

Siniri · **Posted:** Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:55 pm

Right, but "any" is a different word than "ny", and yet it's nerfed the same as S/ED/ING words. I don't know if "many" is nerfed, but they seem to be nerfing more and more combos (there are combos I used to do that gave a lot of points but are nerfed after the last update). I equally love word games, and I don't mind things being nerfed, because I can usually still find combos that aren't, but I think I tried something like "entered" to "centered" and that one was nerfed. I deliberately use words that have a high probability of being stacked, and now I don't know if that strategy will actually pay off or not. You always seem to get credit for the two-letter words, but if you try for a big blob, you're less likely to get the credit you deserve. It annoys me.

FYI, I updated the info on the gold and diamonds from the silver chest. For what it's worth, I've only ever gotten 3* from the rare tokens. I got Isca off a free (common) token for watching an ad, and Thogrin was won in battle. I'm not sure the rare token is worth only getting one chest for every three you're currently getting. Then again, if you don't need potions, what does it matter? *shrugs*

I wonder if there's a way to upgrade to gold chests...

Siniri · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:44 pm

Okay, I started analyzing my deck. Still have a lot of work to do. Whole thing in spoiler tags, but might be useful to others, including a list of which cards you can win from which levels, which is in progress. I can pull out the useful bits to stick somewhere sticky for us. Right now I need to win 1 korbat defenders, wherever I can get those... and then ascend them to 3* and get Thogrin up to 4*.

Edit: How do you get your first store summons achievement? I assumed it would be by making my first purchase in the store, but I just did and did not get the achievement.

Daze · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:19 am

That is definitely how you get that achievement. Buy one and use it.

I am currently just waiting on getting a couple of Thogrin and/or Korbat Defender (although I have not yet received one at all) to ascend for my shoyru.

I am slowly getting closer to my next 900 gems and I have decided to get a Vandagyre next. It is a Water element, which should be the easiest for me to ascend. I am already have my 2* cards and 3* cards ready to level up.

I really need more Party tabs. I currently have a couple of keepers sitting in my inventory.

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I was doing a daily quest, where you needed to have a 'common' card in your party to battle with. I used my 2* Maraquan Lancer along side my best cards and I was surprised at how well it held up in battle. I mainly play in the Maraqua hard levels, so maybe the elements were with me, but for a common card, it has some staying power!

Siniri · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:57 am

I tested whether you can train with a leader by removing my Ixi from all parties and trying to train a random earth hero. You definitely can't.

I just got 2 Karpohs today! Too bad he's one of the worst 4* ones. I could use one of them to ascend Isca to 5*, but my Bloodhook is at 3*L27, and my Karpohs are only at 2*L2.

Spoilered the contents of my inventory, separated by what I want to do with them.

So I have to decide whether I'm going to use Bloodhook to ascend Isca to level 5. I mean, sure he's supposed to be epic, but at 3*L6, his attack of 718 isn't spectacular... At this point, I've all but decided, so if I'm making a mistake, let me know before I ascend Isca! (I've got 9 4* levels to go with her, and 24 3* levels with Bloodhook, so it'll be a couple of days...)

Daze · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:03 pm

Congrats on getting Bloodhook and the Karpohs. I have bottomed out on my luck and have not found any 4* cards since using the last couple (about 2 weeks of regular daily playing).

I haven't received Bloodhook at all, so I haven't had a chance to look at it. Your instincts are very good Siniri, and I would use bloodhook to get your Isca ascended. The game is young and I am sure future levels/updates will give us more chances of gaining better cards.

You have a firm grasp on what you want/need for your cards. Writing it out really helps streamline the process.

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I recently sold off/used a few of my saved cards. I need to make another chart up and will post that up later.

I just bought another Leader with my saved gems. I seem to get them very frequently.
I chose a Vandagyre (Tank, Water) Damage target enemy (150 +125% of Attack), 100% chance to decrease armor (20 +25% of armor) for 3 turns.

I have 2 Earth, 1 Lightning, 1 Water. I thought as long as I am regularly getting gems and have nothing else to do with them, I will get at least 1 of each element (if I can). My second Earth was a mistake (I got the draik because I like them). But he is stopped at 4*.

I had been ascending 2 and 3* Water cards ready for ascending. And straight up got my Vandagyre up to 3* and just working on leveling up for the 4*. I still need to find 2 Karpoh and 2 Thogrin for my 5* ascension of my Water and Lightning Leaders.

Still no luck on getting a silver chest. I honestly think it is a glitch. It really can't be so random that someone at level 14 and only using the bronze chest a couple of times gets upgraded and my situation where I have reached level 30 (max level for the moment) and was getting 2 chests almost every day. And to top it off, I used to have 4 daily quests, now I only have 1. Making it so I can't fill a chest for at least 2 or 3 days now depending on the quest.

I must still have 20 finished quests backlogged, as the number does not decrease, it goes up by one when a new quest is ready, then when I finish it the number goes back to 20. So there is definitely something wrong with it.

Siniri · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:02 pm

I had the quest glitch happen to me a few days ago, Daze. Now I'm somehow back up to four or five a day. It even got to the point where I'd be watching it count down, and then just disappear instead of giving me a quest. Very strange. At least it seems to eventually fix itself (mine lasted about a week, I think). When they reappear after being gone a while, you have to re-complete them, too, even if you've clearly already done what they said (e.g., I recently got the "use 10 bombs/potions" one again, and I started at 0 once it showed up). I still have 17 quests waiting.

With the number of excess water cards I have, I guess I might want to get a water leader, too - I think I could train him/her up to 5* pretty quickly, considering.

It's really amazing how much stronger they are when they're ascended. Isca is doing 3x the damage she used to, and she can heal herself more than 50%, despite her high HP.

(I've been sick in bed all weekend, so I've been indulging my love of word games by playing a lot.)

Edit: And I just ascended Isca. It took nearly all my gold (I had to play a few extra rounds to earn more). Now to level her up again and... who knows what else. I'll probably not play as much once I'm feeling better.

Daze · **Posted:** Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 am

I logged out and back in to L&L and all my quests came back. I had logged out a couple of days ago, and it didn't work, but this time it did.

Managed to get the bronze chest rewards twice today. Still not silver.
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Congrats on ascending Isca. Sorry to hear you are not feeling well.

I am having a rough couple of weeks, chronic allergies are making my life a nightmare at the moment.
I'm not doing much except playing games myself.

EDIT:

Finally upgraded to the Silver Chest.
No idea why, all quests were normal. It really must be random.

Siniri · **Posted:** Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:52 am

That's weird. But glad you finally have silver!

I just got my third Karpoh. I'm at 500 gems, so I've got a ways to go before I can get a water leader (if there's even one worth getting). At this point, I guess I may as well level one up at least to 4*... But first I'm going to finish getting Isca to the max level. Her attack number on mega is currently at 19,804! So strong!

I've been playing L16-20 on Maraqua hard exclusively, hoping for another Thogrin, but I might change that up to L16-20 on KI hard. It seems like you get more L9-10 throwaway cards in MQ than KI, though... (I use those to train and sell the lower level ones, so I can stockpile gold for whenever I finally get more cards to ascend.)

JS should really add in that lightning rare card as a prize or release LD or *something*. Or let you give/trade cards with your friends (though that won't help the lightning scarcity issue).

Edit: I just got upgraded to a gold chest. Maybe that will help get more of the better cards. I'm definitely regretting using that second Isca to upgrade. I didn't think I'd want two, but I wish I'd taken my time and used a Karpoh. Isca's so much stronger than Thogrin, double-Iscas would be better than his regular attack + his special, even if you never used Isca's healing ability. (Though obviously that's because Thogrin is majorly nerfed right now due to lack of lightnings...)

I can't reveal what's inside a gold chest yet since I'm still only at 205/350, and I'm down to 4 quests at a time now, I guess I'll have to wait until Saturday, most likely...

Daze · **Posted:** Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:31 am

I'm sorry you regret using your Isca card. Hopefully it isn't a major setback.

I am down to 3 quests as well, I went to redeem my 4th and it disappeared without giving me my reward.
I have also been getting the same 3 quests for the last 4 days!
To make it worse, two of them are only for 7 gold and one for 20 gold.

I have only redeemed 2 chests, since getting to silver. I am only getting 34 coins every 12 hours. LOL.

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