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I just voted to soul steal JayJay, whom I had suspected, and suggested we try to get rid of someone tonight. If JayJay can put up a good defense that I buy, then I will gladly stay the votes for Soul Steal. However... if he doesn't... well, I won't even try to.

Also, I would suggest a live member to tell JayJay that if he doesn't put up a defense soon, he's liable to have his soul stolen... I don't think he reads commentary.

I just don't like it when people blindly vote just to follow the crowd! Whether any of you admitt it or not that is exactly what you are doing. None of you could possibly have any proof that JayJay is bad.

Kugetsu- You basically said that you voted for him because a "baddie" defended him. Obviously you meant me. The thing is that I'm dead now and the mafia has officially been defeated so who could possibly be left that I care about.

It just really annoys me that one person thinks it's a good idead to soul steal someone and everyone else just goes with it. I have nothing left to lose, so I feel quite open to express my opinions on the subject. Then again none of you have anything left to lose, so why the bandwagoning? It would be rather interesting though if you did kill him.

twiz - It has been my experience that baddies put up better defenses than the innocents. With the exception of me obviously.

No, it's not because a "baddie" defended him/her, believe it or not there are other reasons that can't be mentioned in this thread that are also factors.

All I can say about bandwagoning is face it, ever majority can be called bandwagoning. In game 4 I pretended that if you "bandwagoned" you were evil. A majority at all is bandwagoning. There's only been one execution that everyone who voted had a reason to. That was you last game. Otherwise every majority can be a bandwagon and without majorities, we have no control over the game.

That's not to say that JayJay isn't innocent, but there's no way to win if there's no bandwagoning.

Yes, I was a rather nice exception to the bandwagoning rule last game wasn't I.
I'm not saying that I have never bandwagoned, because I have. The problem that I have with it right now is that for soul steals we can only vote once and can never unvote it. Not to mention the fact that we only have on in this game. It worries me that we're wasting it one someone who really doesn't seem to be a baddie. You say there are other reasons for your vote though, I would really like to know what they are. For at the moment I have seen no real proof to support this.

The only proof you can get at this point that Jayjay is 100% bad is by a dreamer. Everything else would be speculation (and even against the rules to discuss here), even the reasoning that some of us have is pure specualtion. I'm guessing you are looking for that flawless proof. Even then, a dreamer wouldn't shout out. "Jayjay's bad!". Basically, unless someone has the power that can reveal a role, most of us will never have proof that Jayjay is bad/good, that is until he/she (have'nt bothered to look ) is dead. Now a few of us MAY find out, but of that I can't speak of either.

Anyway, I've actually had a second thought and I hope Jayjay isn't Soul Stolen tonight. I would at least like to have a more concrete reason than I do. Anyway, I think the others will take care of everything. We have to remember, Okamotosan may have been bad, and now some other persons might possibly be. Maybe he wasn't, but there's always the chance.

Then we'll just have to wait until you get the proof you need from a dreamer.

*Holds hammer in the air* Hear ye! Hear ye! Fellow deadies, do not vote to soul steal JayJay. Raze, do not dream of him. Instead... execute Luigi! If Luigi is in fact bad... then JayJay's claim of innocence may yet ring true!

Um... Jayjay, I know you said you read the commentary, but did you read it word for word?

First of all, how can I be the one leading people to vote for you when:

1. I'm the second to last person to vote for you.
2. I said I don't want you to be "Soul Stolen"

I've also only mentioned the fact that Monique defended you once. She gave her reason for doing so and now it's an empty statement. I'd like to know where such defensiveness has come from seeing as I was having a conversation with Monique which focused more on other aspects of the game rather than your innocence. I'd also like to know why you think I'm the one rallying against you although I mentioned in my last post "I hope Jayjay isn't Soul Stolen tonight." Please read everything carefully before accusing me of something.

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Don't worry about it, I just wanted to make sure you ddin't think I was the one trying to get you killed. I think it's great you apologized, you're the first. With that said...

*steals Twizzler's gavel* Hear YE! Everyone who doesn't soul steal JayJay beyond this posts gets some etheral brownies... OOOHHHH We know how an appetite can get when your DEAD! So how about it?

I also agree with Twizzler. If JayJay is sure that flatluigi is bad, then we should kill him instead (luigi that is). Sure it may seem cruel on the outside, but we're dead, do we even have a conscience?

You should. You should die instead of him.

Soul Steal: flatluigi

I have a huge feeling he's bad. Trust me on this one. You guys must.

You can't imagine how hard I laughed when I saw that.

Anyway, I agree. I'd vote for him if I could. Actually I got the same thing from his posts as he did from JayJay. He pointed his finger back at JayJay. Though this really doesn't prove anything, I thought it was quite ironic.

I really should learn to keep my mouth shut. Things seem to work themselves out better when I don't say anything at all. I agree with Flatluigi being a baddie as I've said it a few times already, therefore I have no reservations when it comes to using my soul steal on him.

Soul Steal: Flatluigi

If I offended anyone earlier I'm sorry, it just bothers me when people start jumping to conclusions and don't have their facts straight.

Flatluigi- the only reason you're saying that about JayJay is because you need to make him look like a baddie to save yourself. Sorry to disappoint you, but your secret seems to be out.

You know, I'm rather perplexed by the low number of mafia members this game... Maybe there was another member that ended up being converted. I just think two mafia members is a little strange, unless there's a huge ancient cult. o_o

'Tis not a gavel, 'tis a Hammer! Ask Scott! *Steals back* Oh, and because I am really bored... *Steals Kugetsu's proverbial gun, and fires it once into the air*

A good role is never forgotten... it's just passed on to other players.

^_^ *Gives Kugetsu's proverbial gun back to Kugetsu* See, I was bored.

Scott specifcally said that the mafia had been terminated. There was only the two of us throughout the whole game. I think that there were other baddie roles created for this game, meaning there didn't have to be as many mafia.

*forgot about Twiz's role*

Oh... yeah... >_> <_< *runs away screaming*

*comes back firing his proverbial gun*

Let's not forget, you can't judge a book by it's cover. No matte rthe outcome of tonight, you win some and you lose some. *shrugs* One door closes, another door opens. If flatluigi is killed tonight and is in fact innocent, then we have a target right? On the flip side, we may possibly take out an ancient or possibly the last werewolf (if there's only one left).