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Nothing wrong with keeping the money to yourself. You earned that money.

I wouldn't count sending in a text and winning a lottery as earning something. I just think it's completely wrong that we should be exploiting an event organised purely for charity. Why should we make money from charity? Like those fools who are selling fake charity wristbands.

I find it sad today that we don't know where our money is going when we donate to charity. There are far too many people who will easily profit from others good natures and generosity.

I am planning to go to Edinburgh in support of "Make Poverty History". Why give money when you can show your support actively? I went to the over night vigil in London a few months back if anyone remembers. This is an issue close to my heart so I'm ranting... I'll shut up now.

In fairness to everyone, the lottery that many people entered to win tickets to the show, was also full of those people whose only intent was to enter to win a ticket that they knew they could sell for large sums of money. There are over 1000 tickets on sale on Ebay and many are going for well over £1000 each. In my belief peoples greed getting the better of them is the main reason that the G8 summit is taking place, slightly hypocritical really.

There's nothing wrong with selling a lottery prize you've won. While it may be tasteless to some, it stems from the right of owning private property (and doing whatever you want with it).
Named tickets could be used to bypass this, but, face it, would decrease the amount of money the charity gets. This way, you have people who normally wouldn't give you a cent purchasing multipe tickets. Even if it's greed that's the driving force behind this, it still goes to the worthy cause. (Is exploiting people's greed for a worthy cause considered moral?)


Would you rather prefer those people not to participate at all? (And the charity to get less cash?)

No but my point was, by sending in a simple text, we're not earning anything. I just think it's wrong to exploit something that is meant to raise money for charity, not for personal proft.

Yes. But anyone who enters is, they're earning the ticket. Entrance to the Live 8 concert. Now that anyone who enters and wins has ownership of it and can do more or less anything with it, and that includes selling it. The charity gets a donation of £1.50 anyway and will profit from the masses who did enter.

Besides, giving someone the chance to do something they want to do, more than yourself isn't immoral.

I hope I am right by thinking that they got the ticket by sending in a text. And with that ticket, they can go to Live 8, without having to pay any extra money.

They decide not to go, and sell the ticket. They earn money, which will "improve" their life. And a different person goes to Live 8, instead of the other one.


I really don't see the problem.

The problem is that people are exploiting an event designed to try and help poverty. Especially since the £500,000 that would have been earnt by the event in VAT, and subsequently helped africa, has not been earnt because the VAT was cancelled.

I personally would have no problem with selling my ticket on ebay. I am not ACTUALLY exploiting anyone. I'd feel far more guilty if I saw where my shoes were made, or how the coffee i had tonight was picked, or how the toothpaste i just utilised was tested. THAT is exploitation, and it looks like people are only getting up on their high horse over exploitation when they weren't in on the money-making.

Bob Geldof is a flaming pile of halfwitted egocentric numpty! Did you see his performance in The Wall? And his singing? Simply appalling.

Amen, sir.

I fail to see how appalling singing makes someone 'a flaming pile of evil'.

I don't think Geldof's singing makes him 'a flaming pile of evil'. Geldof is a flaming pile of evil whether or not he can sing. The comment about his singing being appalling is a side-note that doesn't affect the first.

What does make him a flaming pile of evil?

Oh right, sorry, all that religious genocide he went in for a few years back...

And what was wrong with his performance in the Wall?

Sure he's not Roger Waters, but that's hardly enough to lynch the guy.

Ask halfbakedbliss.