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Mimi · #136 Post by **Mimi** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:20 am

hakuryu_86 wrote:
soymimi wrote:Right now I'm constructing the ceiling as it probably would appear if you looked directly up. I'm sure others are doing the same, haha.

Just wondering, does your King Altador's gems top 5 gems resemble an arc shape?

I was mulling through the TCGs and for the TCG "The Hunter", it shows a constellation of King Altador with a bow

Yeah, I would say they appear to be similar to an arc...

I wouldn't be surprised if the ceiling had something to do with constellations.

EDIT: Upon further inspection of the gems on the ceiling, they all seem to take the shape of their statue, and it's definitely not a coincidence. I am positive that they represent constellations and the astronomy club ties into this somehow.

TDG · #137 Post by **TDG** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:24 am

How are you lot looking at the ceiling ??

digitel_anime_fan_20 · Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:25 am

Some of them do definantly bare great similiarity. I just checked a few of the other cards and compared them. I think you have to rotate the jewls though.

List: http://www.neopets.com/tcg/checklist.phtml?edition=9

Happy · #139 Post by **Happy** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:25 am

the_dog_god wrote:How are you lot looking at the ceiling ??

click on the top row of pixels on each statue picture

TDG · #140 Post by **TDG** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:26 am

Happy wrote:
the_dog_god wrote:How are you lot looking at the ceiling ??

click on the top row of pixels on each statue picture

Yeah I just worked that out *sheepish grin*

WockyChocky · #141 Post by **WockyChocky** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:29 am

hakuryu_86 wrote:
soymimi wrote:Right now I'm constructing the ceiling as it probably would appear if you looked directly up. I'm sure others are doing the same, haha.

Just wondering, does your King Altador's gems top 5 gems resemble an arc shape?

I was mulling through the TCGs and for the TCG "The Hunter", it shows a constellation of King Altador with a bow

Why, yes - mine does. He's also got a bow in the statue.

Hey... wait a minute.... there's a constellation card for every statue in the circle.

Mimi · #142 Post by **Mimi** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:33 am

WockyChocky wrote:
hakuryu_86 wrote:
soymimi wrote:Right now I'm constructing the ceiling as it probably would appear if you looked directly up. I'm sure others are doing the same, haha.

Just wondering, does your King Altador's gems top 5 gems resemble an arc shape?

I was mulling through the TCGs and for the TCG "The Hunter", it shows a constellation of King Altador with a bow

Why, yes - mine does. He's also got a bow in the statue.

Hey... wait a minute.... there's a constellation card for every statue in the circle.

Hence my previous suggestion that the gems represent the constellations and it ties into the Astronomy club. ;-)

In my opinion, this plot just gets cooler and cooler.

Alright, I'm almost done with the ceiling map. Just have to label things and tweak the angles a bit.

Cranberry · #143 Post by **Cranberry** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:40 am

soymimi wrote:
WockyChocky wrote:
hakuryu_86 wrote:
soymimi wrote:Right now I'm constructing the ceiling as it probably would appear if you looked directly up. I'm sure others are doing the same, haha.

Just wondering, does your King Altador's gems top 5 gems resemble an arc shape?

I was mulling through the TCGs and for the TCG "The Hunter", it shows a constellation of King Altador with a bow

Why, yes - mine does. He's also got a bow in the statue.

Hey... wait a minute.... there's a constellation card for every statue in the circle.

Hence my previous suggestion that the gems represent the constellations and it ties into the Astronomy club. ;-)

Or my suggestion of the same back on page 6.

I played around with the ceiling tiles too, but I think we're done until we can get our hands on a telescope.

TDG · #144 Post by **TDG** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:40 am

An image showing a (badly done) upwards view of the roof...

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8317/plot4wb.png

Probably best to have your own done anyway, just because I did mine with paint and word (I have no real imaging programme on this computer).

Mimi · #145 Post by **Mimi** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:49 am

I have a similar rendition but I also have them labeled and I used exact degrees to simulate the curvature as close as I could...

Here is my small version (50% actual size): http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1097/s ... ing3vb.jpg

Here is larger version (100% actual size): http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8724/l ... ing8ub.jpg

I'll work on refining the image in a bit. Edit: Fixed some overlapping edges.

I'm considering trying to draw the lines on the gems in the way someone would trace out the shape of a constellation. But it may be difficult to make the right connections. Anyone else up to the challenge?

dolphinling · #146 Post by **dolphinling** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:06 am

soymimi wrote:I have a similar rendition but I also have them labeled and I used exact degrees to simulate the curvature as close as I could...

Here is my small version (50% actual size): http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1097/s ... ing3vb.jpg

Here is larger version (100% actual size): http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8724/l ... ing8ub.jpg

I'll work on refining the image in a bit. Edit: Fixed some overlapping edges.

I'm considering trying to draw the lines on the gems in the way someone would trace out the shape of a constellation. But it may be difficult to make the right connections. Anyone else up to the challenge?

Nice... but in case you hadn't noticed, the lines in the original images don't even line up.

For starters, the angle of each gem-constellation is only 20 degrees. There are 12 of them, so combined they add up to 240 degrees, only 2/3 of a full circle.

Second, the lines don't even intersect the rounded part at a right angle! That makes it impossible for it to be a circle with "spokes" coming out.

Lastly... I'm not sure yet, but I don't even think the rounded part is a circle. I'm checking on that now.

In any case, if something like that were important, they'd have made the geometry correct. Since they didn't, I'm betting it's just for show, and the important part is the gem-stars.

The Wonder Weezel · Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:11 am

has anybody else noticed that when you go the hall of heroes, there is a janitor in the back corner (the same orange yurble from the last plot)..... and he is guarding a button that does nothing. you press it... it does nothing. and then the yurble yells at you because he allready told you that it didnt do anything.... :/

hehe, i hope this is news to you guys.... im not going to read all 10 pages just to find out

Mimi · #148 Post by **Mimi** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:14 am

dolphinling wrote:
soymimi wrote:I have a similar rendition but I also have them labeled and I used exact degrees to simulate the curvature as close as I could...

Here is my small version (50% actual size): http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1097/s ... ing3vb.jpg

Here is larger version (100% actual size): http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8724/l ... ing8ub.jpg

I'll work on refining the image in a bit. Edit: Fixed some overlapping edges.

I'm considering trying to draw the lines on the gems in the way someone would trace out the shape of a constellation. But it may be difficult to make the right connections. Anyone else up to the challenge?

Nice... but in case you hadn't noticed, the lines in the original images don't even line up.

For starters, the angle of each gem-constellation is only 20 degrees. There are 12 of them, so combined they add up to 240 degrees, only 2/3 of a full circle.

Second, the lines don't even intersect the rounded part at a right angle! That makes it impossible for it to be a circle with "spokes" coming out.

Lastly... I'm not sure yet, but I don't even think the rounded part is a circle. I'm checking on that now.

In any case, if something like that were important, they'd have made the geometry correct. Since they didn't, I'm betting it's just for show, and the important part is the gem-stars.

Actually, the angles go in 25 degree increments for the two statues in between the 0 and 90 degree, etc., positions.

Also, it's not a perfect rendition, but I do believe it goes in the shape of a circle because that is how the statues are positioned.

"In case you hadn't noticed," ... well, I'm not blind or stupid. Ignore the lines of the paneling. Like I said, it is not a perfect rendition and it's a bit difficult to know the exact dimensions of the ceiling. I was already working on a very large canvas of 1500 x 1500 pixels and was scared to increase more for the sake of loading time.

And the gem-stars are the important part, but it's always a good idea to get the perspective as if you were in the room and looking up yourself. Anyone can look at each 300 x 300 pixel image of each ceiling tile piece-by-piece if they want, but I took an extra ten minutes to construct a rough image of how it would appear altogether. I like to see the big picture, personally, as opposed to tiny bits and pieces.

anchororange · #149 Post by **anchororange** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:21 am

The Wonder Weezel wrote:has anybody else noticed that when you go the hall of heroes, there is a janitor in the back corner (the same orange yurble from the last plot)..... and he is guarding a button that does nothing. you press it... it does nothing. and then the yurble yells at you because he allready told you that it didnt do anything.... :/

hehe, i hope this is news to you guys.... im not going to read all 10 pages just to find out

We've got that. I recommend you read all ten pages to get caught up on the plot so far

Kryse · #150 Post by **Kryse** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:25 am

So have we decided that everyones constalations are the same?
And I'm going to suggest we get a mod come in and split this, since it seems to be the next plot, and we are on page 11. Maybe...

Some one on high speed internet could post a summary maybe?