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That is my opinion though. I think that any child who eats like that would have the right to be called a disgusting pig. Eating like that is a total lack of manners in my opinion.
So you don't think it's harsh that an adult in a position of power can call a 5 year old child a disgusting pig? I think that's pretty disgusting myself. I feel sorry for the poor kid, he must have been so intimidated.

Plus, they are other ways of teaching a young child good table manners. Petty insults are not one of them.

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That is my opinion though. I think that any child who eats like that would have the right to be called a disgusting pig. Eating like that is a total lack of manners in my opinion.
So you don't think it's harsh that an adult in a position of power can call a 5 year old child a disgusting pig? I think that's pretty disgusting myself. I feel sorry for the poor kid, he must have been so intimidated.

Plus, they are other ways of teaching a young child good table manners. Petty insults are not one of them.
Not a five year old, no. They don't know any better. But if a child 8 or up was eating in that way then yes. It's not right for ANY child above that age to eat like that and I do think it's alright to call them disgusting. Maybe calling them a disgusting pig would be harsh though, I must admit.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
That is my opinion though. I think that any child who eats like that would have the right to be called a disgusting pig. Eating like that is a total lack of manners in my opinion.
So you don't think it's harsh that an adult in a position of power can call a 5 year old child a disgusting pig? I think that's pretty disgusting myself. I feel sorry for the poor kid, he must have been so intimidated.

Plus, they are other ways of teaching a young child good table manners. Petty insults are not one of them.
Not a five year old, no. They don't know any better. But if a child 8 or up was eating in that way then yes. It's not right for ANY child above that age to eat like that and I do think it's alright to call them disgusting. Maybe calling them a disgusting pig would be harsh though, I must admit.

Calling someone disgusting, or a disgusting pig is a form of bullying. It is not right for a teacher to bully any student.
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So you don't think it's harsh that an adult in a position of power can call a 5 year old child a disgusting pig? I think that's pretty disgusting myself. I feel sorry for the poor kid, he must have been so intimidated.

Plus, they are other ways of teaching a young child good table manners. Petty insults are not one of them.
Not a five year old, no. They don't know any better. But if a child 8 or up was eating in that way then yes. It's not right for ANY child above that age to eat like that and I do think it's alright to call them disgusting. Maybe calling them a disgusting pig would be harsh though, I must admit.

Calling someone disgusting, or a disgusting pig is a form of bullying. It is not right for a teacher to bully any student.
Not to me it isn't. That isn't bullying at all. If a child knows full well what he's doing is wrong (in this case eating with no manners and being really disgusting around other students) then the teacher can say that he is being disgusting. If she started to calling him offensive names and the like and was being really mean and humiliating in front of everyone, then yes.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
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Not a five year old, no. They don't know any better. But if a child 8 or up was eating in that way then yes. It's not right for ANY child above that age to eat like that and I do think it's alright to call them disgusting. Maybe calling them a disgusting pig would be harsh though, I must admit.

Calling someone disgusting, or a disgusting pig is a form of bullying. It is not right for a teacher to bully any student.
If a child knows full well what he's doing is wrong
What happens if he didn't, huh? Is it still OK for a teacher to intimidate, bully a 5 year old because of moral superiority? Well, is it?
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Calling someone disgusting, or a disgusting pig is a form of bullying. It is not right for a teacher to bully any student.
If a child knows full well what he's doing is wrong
What happens if he didn't, huh? Is it still OK for a teacher to intimidate, bully a 5 year old because of moral superiority? Well, is it?
I'm not talking about a five year old here. I'm talking about a child old enough to know simple manners.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
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If a child knows full well what he's doing is wrong
What happens if he didn't, huh? Is it still OK for a teacher to intimidate, bully a 5 year old because of moral superiority? Well, is it?
I'm not talking about a five year old here. I'm talking about a child old enough to know simple manners.
My point still stands. Calling someone disgusting IS bullying.
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What happens if he didn't, huh? Is it still OK for a teacher to intimidate, bully a 5 year old because of moral superiority? Well, is it?
I'm not talking about a five year old here. I'm talking about a child old enough to know simple manners.
My point still stands. Calling someone disgusting IS bullying.
And my opinion still stands. People who can't be bothered to learn manners deserve to be called disgusting.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
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I'm not talking about a five year old here. I'm talking about a child old enough to know simple manners.
My point still stands. Calling someone disgusting IS bullying.
And my opinion still stands. People who can't be bothered to learn manners deserve to be called disgusting.
It is not the teacher's place to insult the student as a form of discipline. In fact, the only way a teacher should discipline a student is either, 1) detention, 2) a strict conversation where the teacher politely lays out what is wrong, why it is wrong, what should be done about it, and how.
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My point still stands. Calling someone disgusting IS bullying.
And my opinion still stands. People who can't be bothered to learn manners deserve to be called disgusting.
It is not the teacher's place to insult the student as a form of discipline. In fact, the only way a teacher should discipline a student is either, 1) detention, 2) a strict conversation where the teacher politely lays out what is wrong, why it is wrong, what should be done about it, and how.
That's your opinion. If a child is being naughty/rude/disgusting, then the teacher can call them disgusting. And that is MY opinion and no one can change that. I suggest you just let this drop now, okay? Everyone has their own opinions and not once have I dissed your opinion.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
not once have I dissed your opinion.
I don't know what you're implying by this, because I haven't "dissed" your opinion either!
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not once have I dissed your opinion.
I don't know what you're implying by this, because I haven't "dissed" your opinion either!
Yeah, you have. You basicsally told me my opinion was wrong, which it isn't. I don't think any opinion is wrong.

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Okay then. A different perspective. Ginger, would you like it if anyone called you disgusting, justified or not?

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Okay then. A different perspective. Ginger, would you like it if anyone called you disgusting, justified or not?
I get called it most days. I'm used to it. I really would appreciate it if you stopped questioning my opinion and just leave me be.

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Ginger Harp Seal Pup wrote:
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Okay then. A different perspective. Ginger, would you like it if anyone called you disgusting, justified or not?
I get called it most days. I'm used to it.
But do you like it? Imagine if you were 5 years old, brimming with confidence, and then the person that is supposed to guide your education calls you that.

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