Thu May 18, 2006 4:50 am
Only because it is bothering me just a bit, her name is Mrs. Klugh, not clue, yeah just had to say. She was kinda freaky to say the least.
And michael saw walt i believe in jungle when it was all rainy where he spoke words, then if you rewinded it then it had a message which i forget.
As for the whole they aren't who they aren't, i guess that is why they have the whole actor makeup found in the hospital type place. Also good to know Alex is alive, but she doesn't seem way to evil, she seems nice.
And michael saw walt i believe in jungle when it was all rainy where he spoke words, then if you rewinded it then it had a message which i forget.
As for the whole they aren't who they aren't, i guess that is why they have the whole actor makeup found in the hospital type place. Also good to know Alex is alive, but she doesn't seem way to evil, she seems nice.
Thu May 18, 2006 1:28 pm
theonlysaneone wrote:Well, that was a very... informative episode of LOST. Again, a couple of things you should have noticed:
-Mrs. Clue asked Michael if Walt had ever appeared anywhere he shouldn't have been. I hope that rings some bells...
-Walt told him not to listen, they weren't who he thought they were. Michael has listened to the Others so far, and they have kept their end of the bargain also. The boat?
Also, does anyone know what happened to Alex? It looks like she was knocked out or something. Mrs. Clue is obviously a fake name too, like Ethan Rom or Henry Gale.
I think it's Desmond on the boat, assuming he may have had it when he came to the island.
Thu May 18, 2006 10:05 pm
thelilbear wrote:theonlysaneone wrote:Well, that was a very... informative episode of LOST. Again, a couple of things you should have noticed:
-Mrs. Clue asked Michael if Walt had ever appeared anywhere he shouldn't have been. I hope that rings some bells...
-Walt told him not to listen, they weren't who he thought they were. Michael has listened to the Others so far, and they have kept their end of the bargain also. The boat?
Also, does anyone know what happened to Alex? It looks like she was knocked out or something. Mrs. Clue is obviously a fake name too, like Ethan Rom or Henry Gale.
I think it's Desmond on the boat, assuming he may have had it when he came to the island.
He did land on the island when he was in a sailing race around the world. Thanks for making me remember that!
Mon May 22, 2006 5:36 am
I read the book Bad Twin. I took notes while reading and submitted them to a popular podcast. It's rather long, so I doubt they'd read it on-air. 
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Gary Troup:
He loved Oceanic Air flight attendant Cindy Chandler and gave her a cameo in his book.
Christine DeVries, Senior Editor of Walkabout Publishing in Sydney (the Walkabout part caught my eye), invited Gary to come to Australia in September 2004 for a publicity campaign.
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Widmores:
The Widmore family is rich. They started as a midtown real estate company, and they proceeded to the financial district and then to everywhere on Earth. They also do "construction and engineering projects, investments in scientific enterprises," and there are rumours of them doing "illegal offshore projects, classified defence contracting, and private security work of questionable ethics." The main character, Paul, does a Google search and gets this information among other things: office tower construction in Singapore, joint ventures with the Hanso Foundation, and new techniques for reinforcing concrete. There were also articles about alleged environmental violations in obscure places. We learn later in the book that they went into a partnership with Paik Heavy Industry in South Korea (maybe there are ties with Sun's father?).
Arthur Widmore:
Arthur is the father of Cliff Widmore and Zander Widmore, the twins in the book. He heads Widmore Corporation, and in the book, he is in failing health (he's in his mid-70s). His first wife died in a car accident when Cliff and Zander were three. He married twice more, his third wife being Vivian. Arthur is very proud of his Scottish heritage.
Vivian Widmore:
Vivian is in her late 50s. She's very... flirty. Her first husband, Monty Allen, was involved with the mob, and was presumed to be dead. Spoiler: she had an affair with him in the book and was caught.
Cliff Widmore:
The supposedly "good" twin. He hires Paul to search for his twin Zander. He is about 35 with brown hair and blue eyes. His wife, Shannon Rogers, abused drugs and ended up committing suicide three months before the book occurs. (Interestingly enough, her funeral was on April 15... 4-15.) Spoiler: He dies near the end of the book.
Alexander "Zander" Widmore:
The "bad" twin. He squandered much of his inheritence on "projects" around the world. Then, a year before the book takes place, he came back much like the prodigal son did and is welcomed home the same way. Suddenly, he runs off (that's why Paul must track him down). Spoiler: It's revealed later in the book that what he was doing was getting rid of his fortune; he believed that it only caused misfortune.
An interesting note about the twins' birthdays: they are on August 15 and 16--8-15/8-16. More numbers...
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Now, the fun stuff! We get a trip to the Hanso Foundation in this book. I'll type out the page of information for you:
"... [H]e hadn't listened hard enough when Cliff Widmore told him where his office was. He was pretty sure he'd said the forty-second floor. He pushed the button.
The car ascended swiftly and then when the doors opened the detective stepped out. Almost at once he realized something was wrong. In the hallway and in the cubicles behind a glass partition, there were some dozns of busy people milling, but they weren't wearing business suits; they were wearing lab coats. Some of the lab coats were white, some were mint green. Men and women both had neat short hair.
Artisan approached a receptionist who sat behind a chrome desk so bare and clean that it might have been a dissecting table. "Excuse me," he said. "Is this the Widmore Corporation?"
She gave him a smile that was entirely pleasant yet somewhat robotic. "No. This is the Hanso Foundation. Widmore's on forty-seven."
"Ah," said Artisan. "Sorry to bother you." ... "What is it you *do* here?"
She flashed that pert, mechanical smile again and pointed to the plaque mounted on the wall. The plaque read:
The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race. For forty years, the foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further the evolution of the human race and provide the technological solutions to the most pressing problems of our time. The Hanso Foundation: a commitment to encouraging excellence in science and technology and furthering the cause of human development."
I found it interesting that they were located on floor 42 of the Widmore Building.
Also, Hanso is also brought up as Cliff Widmore and Arthur Widmore are leaving a board meeting. I thought this passage was interesting also:
""And that new fellow from Hanso--Mudworm or whatever his name is--"
"Mittelwerk," his son corrected him.
"Whatever. I don't trust him. I think he's sneaky. I much preferred having Alar on the board. Alvar is a gentleman."
"Really?" said Cliff. "What makes him a gentleman? The fact that you made a ton of money together? If that's the definition, I think Mittelwerk's a gentleman. He's got ideas, ambition--"
"Everything but morals," the old man interrupted. "Everything except a conscience."
"And who's Alvar?" said Cliff. "Jiminy Cricket?...""
The conversation was interrupted at that point.
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Finally, there were some fun Lost references in the book. Of course, they fly Oceanic Air and have Cindy serve them. Also, Paul eats at Mr. Cluck's and they talk about John Locke (the philosopher) and Lord of the Flies. And, I believe I found an error. In the book, they talk about the Scotland feudal system ending on 28 November 2004. However, the plane crashed in September 2004, correct? How would Gary Troup be able to put this in his novel if he apparently died then?
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Gary Troup:
He loved Oceanic Air flight attendant Cindy Chandler and gave her a cameo in his book.
Christine DeVries, Senior Editor of Walkabout Publishing in Sydney (the Walkabout part caught my eye), invited Gary to come to Australia in September 2004 for a publicity campaign.
-----
Widmores:
The Widmore family is rich. They started as a midtown real estate company, and they proceeded to the financial district and then to everywhere on Earth. They also do "construction and engineering projects, investments in scientific enterprises," and there are rumours of them doing "illegal offshore projects, classified defence contracting, and private security work of questionable ethics." The main character, Paul, does a Google search and gets this information among other things: office tower construction in Singapore, joint ventures with the Hanso Foundation, and new techniques for reinforcing concrete. There were also articles about alleged environmental violations in obscure places. We learn later in the book that they went into a partnership with Paik Heavy Industry in South Korea (maybe there are ties with Sun's father?).
Arthur Widmore:
Arthur is the father of Cliff Widmore and Zander Widmore, the twins in the book. He heads Widmore Corporation, and in the book, he is in failing health (he's in his mid-70s). His first wife died in a car accident when Cliff and Zander were three. He married twice more, his third wife being Vivian. Arthur is very proud of his Scottish heritage.
Vivian Widmore:
Vivian is in her late 50s. She's very... flirty. Her first husband, Monty Allen, was involved with the mob, and was presumed to be dead. Spoiler: she had an affair with him in the book and was caught.
Cliff Widmore:
The supposedly "good" twin. He hires Paul to search for his twin Zander. He is about 35 with brown hair and blue eyes. His wife, Shannon Rogers, abused drugs and ended up committing suicide three months before the book occurs. (Interestingly enough, her funeral was on April 15... 4-15.) Spoiler: He dies near the end of the book.
Alexander "Zander" Widmore:
The "bad" twin. He squandered much of his inheritence on "projects" around the world. Then, a year before the book takes place, he came back much like the prodigal son did and is welcomed home the same way. Suddenly, he runs off (that's why Paul must track him down). Spoiler: It's revealed later in the book that what he was doing was getting rid of his fortune; he believed that it only caused misfortune.
An interesting note about the twins' birthdays: they are on August 15 and 16--8-15/8-16. More numbers...
-----
Now, the fun stuff! We get a trip to the Hanso Foundation in this book. I'll type out the page of information for you:
"... [H]e hadn't listened hard enough when Cliff Widmore told him where his office was. He was pretty sure he'd said the forty-second floor. He pushed the button.
The car ascended swiftly and then when the doors opened the detective stepped out. Almost at once he realized something was wrong. In the hallway and in the cubicles behind a glass partition, there were some dozns of busy people milling, but they weren't wearing business suits; they were wearing lab coats. Some of the lab coats were white, some were mint green. Men and women both had neat short hair.
Artisan approached a receptionist who sat behind a chrome desk so bare and clean that it might have been a dissecting table. "Excuse me," he said. "Is this the Widmore Corporation?"
She gave him a smile that was entirely pleasant yet somewhat robotic. "No. This is the Hanso Foundation. Widmore's on forty-seven."
"Ah," said Artisan. "Sorry to bother you." ... "What is it you *do* here?"
She flashed that pert, mechanical smile again and pointed to the plaque mounted on the wall. The plaque read:
The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race. For forty years, the foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further the evolution of the human race and provide the technological solutions to the most pressing problems of our time. The Hanso Foundation: a commitment to encouraging excellence in science and technology and furthering the cause of human development."
I found it interesting that they were located on floor 42 of the Widmore Building.
Also, Hanso is also brought up as Cliff Widmore and Arthur Widmore are leaving a board meeting. I thought this passage was interesting also:
""And that new fellow from Hanso--Mudworm or whatever his name is--"
"Mittelwerk," his son corrected him.
"Whatever. I don't trust him. I think he's sneaky. I much preferred having Alar on the board. Alvar is a gentleman."
"Really?" said Cliff. "What makes him a gentleman? The fact that you made a ton of money together? If that's the definition, I think Mittelwerk's a gentleman. He's got ideas, ambition--"
"Everything but morals," the old man interrupted. "Everything except a conscience."
"And who's Alvar?" said Cliff. "Jiminy Cricket?...""
The conversation was interrupted at that point.
-----
Finally, there were some fun Lost references in the book. Of course, they fly Oceanic Air and have Cindy serve them. Also, Paul eats at Mr. Cluck's and they talk about John Locke (the philosopher) and Lord of the Flies. And, I believe I found an error. In the book, they talk about the Scotland feudal system ending on 28 November 2004. However, the plane crashed in September 2004, correct? How would Gary Troup be able to put this in his novel if he apparently died then?
Mon May 22, 2006 5:44 am
Just a question since not knowing if i should read the spoiler or not. But does are the spoilers such that it ruins the season finale? Or is it something else? Cause if it is season finale stuff i'll wait till wednesday, but if it isnt' i'll just read.
Mon May 22, 2006 3:47 pm
Blk Mage wrote:Just a question since not knowing if i should read the spoiler or not. But does are the spoilers such that it ruins the season finale? Or is it something else? Cause if it is season finale stuff i'll wait till wednesday, but if it isnt' i'll just read.
The post above contains spoilers for the book Bad Twin. I put all the details we learn about the Widmore family, Gary Troup, and the Hanso Foundation in there.
hi
Mon May 22, 2006 4:20 pm
hi there i'm a huge fan of lost but i dont think i am as far upto date as all of you,lost is just in it's 3rd week of series 2 
Mon May 22, 2006 9:57 pm
o_0 wrote:Blk Mage wrote:Just a question since not knowing if i should read the spoiler or not. But does are the spoilers such that it ruins the season finale? Or is it something else? Cause if it is season finale stuff i'll wait till wednesday, but if it isnt' i'll just read.
The post above contains spoilers for the book Bad Twin. I put all the details we learn about the Widmore family, Gary Troup, and the Hanso Foundation in there.
Wow, thanks. Now I don't have to buy it
Anyway, there's more website stuff up. Apparently Peter Thompson is a crooked lawyer...
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Is anyone else really excited about the season finale? I know I am. Also, afterwards, Hugh MacIntyre (the communications director from the Hanso Foundation) will be appearing on Jimmy Kimmel Live. That might actually give me a reason to watch that show.
Yoshi edit: You've been a member long enough to know not to double post. Posts merged.
Re: hi
Wed May 24, 2006 10:30 pm
oldie wrote:hi there i'm a huge fan of lost but i dont think i am as far upto date as all of you,lost is just in it's 3rd week of series 2
Thos americanos are ahead of us I'm afraid (As are some other countries). You can download them online though but I don't have any details on that
Thu May 25, 2006 3:05 am
Wow just finished watching the season finale tons of things are opened up.
Great that Penny Widmore is trying to find Desmond and such and the quote which she said really came full swing at the end i believe it was "With enough money you can find anybody."
Also neat how they had a desmond episode probably play a bigger part, unless he died at the end then not so well. Then John being stupid and not pushing the button, and the world practically ends, then Micheal and just leaving everyone. Really good though, can't wait to see what happens in the next season.
Great that Penny Widmore is trying to find Desmond and such and the quote which she said really came full swing at the end i believe it was "With enough money you can find anybody."
Also neat how they had a desmond episode probably play a bigger part, unless he died at the end then not so well. Then John being stupid and not pushing the button, and the world practically ends, then Micheal and just leaving everyone. Really good though, can't wait to see what happens in the next season.
Thu May 25, 2006 3:15 am
I was scared they were going to blow up the boat that Michael was on.
And please don't kill off Eko! Kill Locke; I hate him!
And please don't kill off Eko! Kill Locke; I hate him!
Thu May 25, 2006 3:16 am
Well... Woah...
I was expecting more answers, and this finale didn't really answer many of the questions that have been bugging me.
We still don't know who the Others are. We just know that Mr. Friendly and Miss Klugh are really named Tom and Dee, and also that "Henry Gale" is possibly their leader.
We still don't know why they wanted Walt. We still don't know anything more about the Dharma Initiative and the Hanso Foundation.
It's nice to know why the plane crashed. And a lot of cool stuff did happen, but it raised more questions and now we have to wait a very long time for answers...
I was expecting more answers, and this finale didn't really answer many of the questions that have been bugging me.
We still don't know who the Others are. We just know that Mr. Friendly and Miss Klugh are really named Tom and Dee, and also that "Henry Gale" is possibly their leader.
We still don't know why they wanted Walt. We still don't know anything more about the Dharma Initiative and the Hanso Foundation.
It's nice to know why the plane crashed. And a lot of cool stuff did happen, but it raised more questions and now we have to wait a very long time for answers...
Thu May 25, 2006 4:15 am
Megadittos.Moogum wrote:Well... Woah...
I was expecting more answers, and this finale didn't really answer many of the questions that have been bugging me.
We still don't know who the Others are. We just know that Mr. Friendly and Miss Klugh are really named Tom and Dee, and also that "Henry Gale" is possibly their leader.
We still don't know why they wanted Walt. We still don't know anything more about the Dharma Initiative and the Hanso Foundation.
It's nice to know why the plane crashed. And a lot of cool stuff did happen, but it raised more questions and now we have to wait a very long time for answers...
Thu May 25, 2006 4:44 am
Lots of questions. Big "whaa?" moment to that four-toed, one legged statue.
Locke was SO annoying today. But man, did it feel good to hear "I was wrong." No kidding!
Something doesn't seem right about how Michael and Walt are just leaving. I think something's gonna happen when they arrive at whatever coordinates Henry told them to go, something perhaps not the fault of the Others. It can't be that easy...can it? Anyway, someone mentioned how Walt isn't taking his dog (Vincent) with him. Aww.
Yay Desmond. I nearly missed the ending after Charlie and Claire, I almost thought it was a commercial break. It does show that this show will have an end where they get off the island, cause they tied in the real world (the foreign hatch people were speaking Portugeuse) using Penny. And I'm glad they finally gave an explanation for how the plane crashed, but I don't really understand why Desmond didn't tell Locke earlier...
I do hope Desmond lives. Cause if he doesn't, the Penny plot will drag longer. I also hope Ecko lives, but couldn't care less about Locke. Or Jack or Kate. :P
And yay for Libby's backstory. I've been wanting it to continue, cause it can't just hang there.
They didn't open the quarantine box which fell from the sky, did they?
Anyway, pretty good finale, but it dragged a tad. The House finale yesterday, I still say is my favourite this May sweeps.
Locke was SO annoying today. But man, did it feel good to hear "I was wrong." No kidding!
Something doesn't seem right about how Michael and Walt are just leaving. I think something's gonna happen when they arrive at whatever coordinates Henry told them to go, something perhaps not the fault of the Others. It can't be that easy...can it? Anyway, someone mentioned how Walt isn't taking his dog (Vincent) with him. Aww.
Yay Desmond. I nearly missed the ending after Charlie and Claire, I almost thought it was a commercial break. It does show that this show will have an end where they get off the island, cause they tied in the real world (the foreign hatch people were speaking Portugeuse) using Penny. And I'm glad they finally gave an explanation for how the plane crashed, but I don't really understand why Desmond didn't tell Locke earlier...
I do hope Desmond lives. Cause if he doesn't, the Penny plot will drag longer. I also hope Ecko lives, but couldn't care less about Locke. Or Jack or Kate. :P
And yay for Libby's backstory. I've been wanting it to continue, cause it can't just hang there.
They didn't open the quarantine box which fell from the sky, did they?
Anyway, pretty good finale, but it dragged a tad. The House finale yesterday, I still say is my favourite this May sweeps.
Thu May 25, 2006 4:53 am
Yoshi wrote:Anyway, pretty good finale, but it dragged a tad. The House finale yesterday, I still say is my favourite this May sweeps.
What?
The House finale was more confusing than any episode of Lost ever.