WW17: The Return [GamePlay]

[Anoohilator]

Vote: Chipper

Nyeah why not *shrug*

[Bangel]

Vote: Chipper

Sure, why not...

[Xandra]

Sorry, but no one's come forward yet. (okay, so that's understandable, as for all they know, I want to kill them, but even aside from your innocence not being confirmed, I still don't buy your defense. )

Vote: Chipper

[Bangel]

After thinking over this and listening to various theories, I have an idea.

I don't think this is a regular game of Werewolf. I don't think it's a good vs. evil battle anymore. I think it's team vs. team. Look at the deaths. There are no confirmed innocents. "Mafia protector" doesn't mean it protects people from the mafia. It could mean it protects the mafia itself. Just because vigilantes were good in past games doesn't mean they're good in this one (and I have a good amount of evidence to say they're not).

So what if there are no goodies? Look at the stats. Seven people that have died (Kugetsu, who was resurrected, is included in that) were confirmed evil. The vigilante and the mafia protector could easily be evil, and if they are, that's nine out of twenty four people that are evil. That is nearly half of the players evil. Normally, the ratio sits at around 70% innocent, and 30% evil. The levels of evil are way above normal, and I don't think it's possible that the everyone that is killing is just being lucky.

I think it's possible they're killing off baddies all the time because baddies are the only people to kill.

[Wind]

You realize that with that post you're just admitting you're evil?

We've seen at least 4 mafia die. Suppose we have teams with 4-5 people on them. It would mean at least 5 teams, that's a bit too much considering that we have mafia, WW, cult, soot people and evil vigilante. Either they're all teams with 5 people on them, or some teams for some weird reason haven't killed yet.

Apart from this, the presence of a cult in the game makes me think that there must be some innocents somewhere. Usually baddies can't be converted to another role, so the cult can only convert innocents. No innocents = no cult conversions = no real purpose for the cult.

[Kugetsu]

Bangel could be onto something, maybe we're all evil. :O

Wind's always evil, therefore she's lying and cannot be trusted. ;D

Anyway. If the chances look bleak on getting a double execution, you'd better consider getting votes on Chipper ahead of mine. You can help me by downing someone that can be killed tonight (and yourselves as well).

But, not that I'm the one to complainm I don't have to worry much.

Vote - Chipper

Person who rezzed me, contact me pl0x.

[Dyl]

Vote: Chipper
Vote: Kugetsu
I think that's a lock on Kuge and a majority on Chipper, meaning a double execution.

[Ixistant]

HA! TOLD YOU TWIZ WAS TEH EBIL!!!

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

Anyway, I have a strong suspicion about two people. But I'll leave them until tomorrow. So,

Vote: Kugetsu
Vote: Chipper

[Bangel]

You realize that with that post you're just admitting you're evil? :roll:

Excuse me for the major 'duh'. I'm not thick enough to post that without giving any thought to the consequences.

And you realize that with the correctness of this theory, which has yet to be actually disproven, so are you. I still think it's right. *shrug*

[Kugetsu]

And along with that theory comes explicit bandwagons that won't cease because we know that if this is a team game, that absolutely no one has any reason to vote for anyone other than the "You're not on my team approach." That will be all that happens. I'm sure Scott knows how those games turn out, so I doubt he did that.

[ScottNak]

Clarification: Mafia protector DOES imply protection FROM Mafia Attacks.

16 / 9 / 12

* Lock only occurs when EVERYONE but the person votes against the same person.

Kugetsu(13): WIS, Bangel, Christopher, Xela of Xandra, theonlysaneone, Chipper, Jamie, CWisgood, YesItIsh, Anoohilator, Wind, Dyl, Ixistant,

Chipper(9): CWisgood, Wind, WIS, Anoohilator, Bangel, Xela of Xandra, Kugetsu, Dyl, Ixistant

[Bangel]

And along with that theory comes explicit bandwagons that won't cease because we know that if this is a team game, that absolutely no one has any reason to vote for anyone other than the "You're not on my team approach." That will be all that happens. I'm sure Scott knows how those games turn out, so I doubt he did that.

Not really... why would he make us decide who won if this was some regular game? Look at the people that have died and tell me honestly that you don't think there's anything special about this one. As for voting, there would be strategies. For example, finding out who the powerful baddies are compared to the not so powerful baddies. If you get the choice between some person that can barely do anything, and a werewolf... who are you going ot vote for?

And if that's not enough, I'll tell you right now that I'm a vigilante, and that I'm evil. That's not normal, and everyone who regularly plays these games will know that.

Clarification: Mafia protector DOES imply protection FROM Mafia Attacks.

*shrug* Doesn't mean it's the traditional protector role, as mine is not the traditional vigilante role. I'm sticking to my theory.

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[Christopher]

Nobody can prove or disprove the everyone is evil theory without revealing which side they are on. Well...except you aparently.

[Bangel]

Nobody can prove or disprove the everyone is evil theory without revealing which side they are on. Well...except you aparently.

I still think the death counts are enough to give information to state that I may not be out of my mind. Not completely out of my mind, anyway.

[Christopher]

But would there be two evil vigilantes?

Meh, I'll just vote for you anyway

Vote: Bangel