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Parents, please know when to pick your battles.

Arresting a kid for taking a frickin' (Excuse my language) Christmas present won't help curve his bad behaviour. Why not discipline him when he's actually done something really bad? And I'm not saying they haven't, but isn't a bit strange that she would jump to such extremes for just a Christmas give which was his anyways? It's obvious this woman didn't discipline from the beginning, and in all seriousness, I think arresting him for something as stupid as this will only make it worse.


I think the point is just that - its not his anyways - not until christmas day


Well, even if it wasn't "his" till Christmas, a proper punishment should've been given. Not a waste of time phone call to the police.


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If she has a problem son, chances are, she's probably tried every tactic under the sun to get him behave. At least she's trying to show him that there are consequences to his actions, regardless of how extreme. Good on her is what I say. Maybe now she'll find it easier to help for him.


Ditto to that! You explained it better than I did ;)


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From what the article says, I think it's plain stupid. I really can't say much, I haven't ever raised a child. But it just seems, from what adults around me say, you wouldn't try to get your kid in jail. It seems, a little, to me like she's trying to get the boy out of her household.
If I had the sort of mother who calls the police for opening a present, I'd probably shoplift and whatnot. You won't know what's good and bad if your parents don't teach you. I don't if that's the case or not but..........


Oh come on, they're hardly going to charge a 12 year old kid for that! She was just trying to scare him. :roll:


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Oh come on, they're hardly going to charge a 12 year old kid for that! She was just trying to scare him :roll:


He broke into a house.
They're atleast going to charge him as a juvenile.


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i hope he goes to prison. The little turd.


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If she has a problem son, chances are, she's probably tried every tactic under the sun to get him behave.


I'm going to disagree with you on this. I know a lot of problem children and the parents don't give a crap at all about their child's behavior. The child's behavior is always blamed on someone else. The parents take no responsibility for their child's behavior. I think this was definitely a waste of the police department's time. I think a better idea would be to take the gift and return it to the store if possible, or sell it on e-bay...then the kid can't have it anymore and maybe learns that if they screw up, things will be taken away.


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I'm going to disagree with you on this. I know a lot of problem children and the parents don't give a crap at all about their child's behavior. The child's behavior is always blamed on someone else. The parents take no responsibility for their child's behavior.


Some problem children you know =/= problem children in general. Most parents do try to help their children. Deadbeat parents are a great minority.

The mother called the police, would she have done this if she wasn't trying to discipline him? That likely means that she does care about him and probably has tried other methods as well, since she reacted in such a way to something that would usually be trivial (and even stated that she's trying to help him, and that he needs it...)


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I'm going to disagree with you on this. I know a lot of problem children and the parents don't give a crap at all about their child's behavior. The child's behavior is always blamed on someone else. The parents take no responsibility for their child's behavior.


Some problem children you know =/= problem children in general. Most parents do try to help their children. Deadbeat parents are a great minority.

The mother called the police, would she have done this if she wasn't trying to discipline him? That likely means that she does care about him and probably has tried other methods as well, since she reacted in such a way to something that would usually be trivial (and even stated that she's trying to help him, and that he needs it...)


As I said before, the police have BETTER things to do.

"There's a building on fire, but WAIT, a boy opened his Christmas present early? TO THE POLICE CAR!"

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The time used to "scaring" this boy could've been spent elsewhere; if he actually committed a crime, sure, call the cops, throw him in jail for all I care. But this isn't a crime in which he actually hurt someone, he disobeyed the rules.

Everyone's making it sound like he hit his grandmother with the present with all these "Good show mother" comments.

I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, I just don't like seeing the police being abused like this, it's ridiculous and wrong. There are far too many crimes to solve rather than spending time on a stupid discipline problem which should've been fixed years ago.


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Well, we could also say that if someone's home was being robbed, and yet a murder was committed at the same time, the police shouldn't go to the robbery, because "they have better things to do." It is always possible to do more than one is currently doing!


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Why can't they just not give him nice things when he's a jerk?


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Well, we could also say that if someone's home was being robbed, and yet a murder was committed at the same time, the police shouldn't go to the robbery, because "they have better things to do." It is always possible to do more than one is currently doing!


Kyra, that's not the same, and you know that. You understand the point I was trying to make; this isn't some crime, this is a simple discipline problem. I never once said that there are crimes more important than others, that would be ridiculous.

But, I can see this is turning into a debate, and I just want out of it. In short, the problem's stupid, the mother wasted the police's time and that's that.


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If the kid needs help, and has a record, then maybe it is time for the mother to talk to some sort of professional. Therapist, perhaps?

IMO, they should of punished the kid by taking away the present. My mom doesn't even put my presents under the tree until Christmas Eve.

Besides, I've opened presents early once. Then again, it was only a candy bar. (It was chocolate!)


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I'm going to disagree with you on this. I know a lot of problem children and the parents don't give a crap at all about their child's behavior. The child's behavior is always blamed on someone else. The parents take no responsibility for their child's behavior.


Some problem children you know =/= problem children in general. Most parents do try to help their children. Deadbeat parents are a great minority.

The mother called the police, would she have done this if she wasn't trying to discipline him? That likely means that she does care about him and probably has tried other methods as well, since she reacted in such a way to something that would usually be trivial (and even stated that she's trying to help him, and that he needs it...)


As I said before, the police have BETTER things to do.

"There's a building on fire, but WAIT, a boy opened his Christmas present early? TO THE POLICE CAR!"

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The time used to "scaring" this boy could've been spent elsewhere; if he actually committed a crime, sure, call the cops, throw him in jail for all I care. But this isn't a crime in which he actually hurt someone, he disobeyed the rules.

Everyone's making it sound like he hit his grandmother with the present with all these "Good show mother" comments.

I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, I just don't like seeing the police being abused like this, it's ridiculous and wrong. There are far too many crimes to solve rather than spending time on a stupid discipline problem which should've been fixed years ago.


Um... I didn't quote you...?


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Kugetsu wrote:
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I'm going to disagree with you on this. I know a lot of problem children and the parents don't give a crap at all about their child's behavior. The child's behavior is always blamed on someone else. The parents take no responsibility for their child's behavior.


Some problem children you know =/= problem children in general. Most parents do try to help their children. Deadbeat parents are a great minority.

The mother called the police, would she have done this if she wasn't trying to discipline him? That likely means that she does care about him and probably has tried other methods as well, since she reacted in such a way to something that would usually be trivial (and even stated that she's trying to help him, and that he needs it...)


As I said before, the police have BETTER things to do.

"There's a building on fire, but WAIT, a boy opened his Christmas present early? TO THE POLICE CAR!"

<hr>
The time used to "scaring" this boy could've been spent elsewhere; if he actually committed a crime, sure, call the cops, throw him in jail for all I care. But this isn't a crime in which he actually hurt someone, he disobeyed the rules.

Everyone's making it sound like he hit his grandmother with the present with all these "Good show mother" comments.

I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, I just don't like seeing the police being abused like this, it's ridiculous and wrong. There are far too many crimes to solve rather than spending time on a stupid discipline problem which should've been fixed years ago.


Um... I didn't quote you...?


I know, I originally misunderstood what you said, but I was too lazy to take you out of the post so I just went off on a general rant.


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Its hte mother who should be arrested, for buying her son a Gameboy and not a DS.

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