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Which way do you lean politcally?
Mostly conservative 14%  14%  [ 11 ]
Mostly liberal 49%  49%  [ 39 ]
Generally in the middle of both 18%  18%  [ 14 ]
Don't care/Don't know 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
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I'm socially liberal.


A libertarian?


Basing my answer on what I've read on Libertarianism, I'd say no; Liberal, not Classical Liberal. If you'd be willing, I'd be much obliged if you would ask me some questions to help you and me try to clarify whether or not I'm a Libertarian.

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I'm sure I'm more "left" than the Democrats. They aren't really "liberal" on the grand scheme of themes anyway. They're just more left than the Republicans. American politics is pretty conservative overall.


I believe that the Democrats are on the political center, not left. . . . and it seems to me you may agree with that. I'm reminded of the following from a recent post by Michael Wong at his SD.net forum:
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According to the media, the centre is actually the "left", and the actual left does not exist. And this is a fairly recent development. It was widely recognized in the media and among all political analysts that Bill Clinton moved the Democratic party to the centre in the early 1990s, and it was even lauded openly as a brilliant political strategy. Now the Democrats are viewed as "the left" by the media and by large swathes of the idiot public, even though everyone just 15 years ago knew that they were moving to the centre.


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Im registered as Democrat, and Im fairly middlish. I look at things from a common sense perspective, and try to be as logical and unbiased as I can. Sometimes I end up agreeing with conservatives, sometimes liberals. There are certain issues that Im absolutely far left on, and less issues that Im absolutely far right on though.


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Hyperion wrote:
SpiraLethe wrote:
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I'm socially liberal.


A libertarian?


Basing my answer on what I've read on Libertarianism, I'd say no; Liberal, not Classical Liberal. If you'd be willing, I'd be much obliged if you would ask me some questions to help you and me try to clarify whether or not I'm a Libertarian.

SpiraLethe wrote:
I'm sure I'm more "left" than the Democrats. They aren't really "liberal" on the grand scheme of themes anyway. They're just more left than the Republicans. American politics is pretty conservative overall.


I believe that the Democrats are on the political center, not left. . . . and it seems to me you may agree with that. I'm reminded of the following from a recent post by Michael Wong at his SD.net forum:
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According to the media, the centre is actually the "left", and the actual left does not exist. And this is a fairly recent development. It was widely recognized in the media and among all political analysts that Bill Clinton moved the Democratic party to the centre in the early 1990s, and it was even lauded openly as a brilliant political strategy. Now the Democrats are viewed as "the left" by the media and by large swathes of the idiot public, even though everyone just 15 years ago knew that they were moving to the centre.


...Politics are quite confusing, aren't they?

Is there anywhere I can find a simple explanation of all these different terms?


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Well, certainly you can do as I would and look 'em up in Wiki or a more reliable source that you may find through Google, but I have found a useful topic at the SD.net forum titled "Political terminology thread" that I hope you may find useful, too.


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Hyperion wrote:
Basing my answer on what I've read on Libertarianism, I'd say no; Liberal, not Classical Liberal. If you'd be willing, I'd be much obliged if you would ask me some questions to help you and me try to clarify whether or not I'm a Libertarian.


I've got nothin'. 'Just curious.


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SpiraLethe wrote:
I've got nothin'. 'Just curious.


I suppose you'd answer your own question as I did, that about, from as much as is understood about the definitions, being a liberal, but not libertarian?


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*Dislikes this question*

It fails to take into account that politics isn't "Left or Right" But rather "Left Right, up Down and off the Z axis*

I'm probably of the Z axis I'm afraid (I say Z axis, because I don't recall ever being given the Political term for it) Being that I'm selfish.
If it helps me, it's good, if it hinders me, it's bad.


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Most people would say Im so left that I barely have a right buttcheek.

However, my family leans to the right for reasons of economic security and stuff--more beneficial.


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I just hate president bush


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http://www.politicalcompass.org

I remembered this website from a while ago. It determines you position on the political compass, not the scale.

I got:

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82


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Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.59

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Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23

Interesting. I'm more "liberal" than Nelson Mandela, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama.


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Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

Course, a bunch of the questions I only half understood or didn't have an opinion on, but that seems about right.


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Social Authoritarian: 4.05

Am I right or what?

As for my views, I'm a red-blooded, conservative republican Southerner. I used to like President Bush, but I think he's moved too far to the left, especially with all of his big government spending. Still, better him than Kerry.


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