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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:48 am 
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of a son being a late bloomer if his dad was one?
anyone know? and i am talking about height and growth
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i would have thought reasonably high - things like that are bound to have a genetic impact


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There is a pretty good chance, especially since Rachel says so. :D


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Definitely. Bluez's chances of being 6'0" has just increased ten-fold because Rachel says so.


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Rachel wrote:
i would have thought reasonably high - things like that are bound to have a genetic impact


Because I can, i'll so make you look bad.

Why not have a look at your own family rach? Remember at din dins today, daddy said he was the cox in rowing till he started actually growing?

He would've been what, atleast 16,17 when he was coxing so my age. is there any possible way I could cox?

So, I offer this, my dad was ickle but i'm 6"3 at the mo, so its quite possible you may indeed be huge.

But rachel is going to hide behind the vaugeness of her statement (which btw, is BAD SCIENCE according to my lecturer) so yeah, i bet genetics does have an impact too. But never lose hope!

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i disagree with you marcus - check your ages before making statements like that or you're just as guilty of "bad science" as me.

Height is definately determined by your genes to a certain extent - although environment will have a large impact - for example if you look at the heights of children raised during the 2nd world war they're much shorter than you would expect them to be compared to their non war raised counterparts due to the rationing.

If your argument were correct marcus, then you would expect identical twins to be of different heights - but all the twins i know are all the same height, which implys a very strong genetic influence.


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Rachel wrote:
i disagree with you marcus - check your ages before making statements like that or you're just as guilty of "bad science" as me.

Height is definately determined by your genes to a certain extent - although environment will have a large impact - for example if you look at the heights of children raised during the 2nd world war they're much shorter than you would expect them to be compared to their non war raised counterparts due to the rationing.

If your argument were correct marcus, then you would expect identical twins to be of different heights - but all the twins i know are all the same height, which implys a very strong genetic influence.


So, drawing from your argument, we can suggest to this young gentleman to eat alot. Then, unlike rationed chickens he will grow tall.

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Rachel wrote:
i disagree with you marcus - check your ages before making statements like that or you're just as guilty of "bad science" as me.

Height is definately determined by your genes to a certain extent - although environment will have a large impact - for example if you look at the heights of children raised during the 2nd world war they're much shorter than you would expect them to be compared to their non war raised counterparts due to the rationing.

If your argument were correct marcus, then you would expect identical twins to be of different heights - but all the twins i know are all the same height, which implys a very strong genetic influence.


Yar.

Max height, as well as max growth rate and milestone times, are genetic. Actual/final height is genesminus a little because of the effect of the environment. Usually it's nutrition.

I always think it's funny when people, even grown adults, say, "Sports makes you taller...look at basketball players!" Totally untrue.


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shapu wrote:
I always think it's funny when people, even grown adults, say, "Sports makes you taller...look at basketball players!" Totally untrue.


That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


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Paul wrote:
shapu wrote:
I always think it's funny when people, even grown adults, say, "Sports makes you taller...look at basketball players!" Totally untrue.


That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


Yeah, it's pretty dim.


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I would say if your Dad was late chances are you will be too, but on the other hand, you could have gotten your height from another member of the family on either side.

My fiance is 5'6 and his Dad is at least 6 foot. all his uncles on his Dad's side are very tall as well, but his mother is about 5'3

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Don't forget that environmental aspects can affect growth as well.
And no, there's no garuntee, I have blue / green eyes and a good Six foot tall, and no one in living memory have those aspects (In my family obviously)
similarly, my sister is the shortest and my brother is Ginger.


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I have to support both the genetics and the environment arguments.

By now, there should be no doubt that both are big factors. Everyone on my dad's side of my family is pretty tall or at least taller than average. All of my siblings were raised pretty much the same, and we all turned out to be tall with my sister just being a few cm shorter than me. That can be explained away as when she gave up milk for a while during JH and HS.

I then look over at my mom's side to see the environment factor come into play. My mom is the shortest in the family. The next shortest is one of my cousins, whose parents are both about as tall as I am. She was raised in an environment where the good eating habits that encourage growth weren't as heavily enforced as they were with my parents raising myself and my siblings. But environment can't be the only factor why she is shorter. She could have just gotten a raw deal on the genetic grab bag since her younger brother is taller than I am but had a similar diet as his sister.

Now back to the original question. If your dad didn't get growth spurts until late, there is a good chance you will do the same. Just remember to eat right and exercise too for best results.


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She was raised in an environment where the good eating habits that encourage growth weren't as heavily enforced as they were with my parents raising myself and my siblings. But environment can't be the only factor why she is shorter. She could have just gotten a raw deal on the genetic grab bag since her younger brother is taller than I am but had a similar diet as his sister.


On which note I have never eaten well and am often just shy of starvation and dehydration (IE: I eat enough to live and little more, unlike most people)
And as I said, I'm the tallest in atleast three generations of my family.

Ofcourse then we bring up suppressive(I think thats the term..) genes and the whole thing becomes irrelevant as we haven't had the technology to look for it long enough to know.

Edit: Say bluez, how old are you?


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