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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:15 pm 
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I do believe in ghosts to a certain extent. I believe that there are people who can see them and talk to them, and there are technologies that exist to allow people to witness their existence in some fashion if they're there. I believe that there has to be another species on another planet somewhere in the universe. I don't think we'll ever meet, I don't think aliens have grand plans of taking over earth, and I don't believe that people are abducted by aliens.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:41 pm 
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I figure there are too many stories and people who have had experiences with them or whatever for there not to be some truth to it, you know? Not saying I believe everything I've heard, but I don't think that all of the people who've seen stuff could be lying or crazy. I've never had any sort of experience, but I wouldn't rule it out.


So you're using Argumentum ad populum?

No, I've lived long enough to know that people=crazy is the biggest universal constant ever.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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I don't believe in ghosts, but aliens have got to exist somewhere out there. Except, as said earlier, unless there's some way to bash a huge hole in our understanding of physics there's no way we'll make contact anytime soon.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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I figure there are too many stories and people who have had experiences with them or whatever for there not to be some truth to it, you know? Not saying I believe everything I've heard, but I don't think that all of the people who've seen stuff could be lying or crazy. I've never had any sort of experience, but I wouldn't rule it out.


So you're using Argumentum ad populum?

No, I've lived long enough to know that people=crazy is the biggest universal constant ever.


There's a difference between arguing logic and stating my opinion. I am allowed to have faith in what some people say.

And I doubt you've lived much longer than I have.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:02 pm 
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But you were arguing logic...
You said, quite explicitly, that there are so many stories that some of them must be true (Or that there must be some grain of logic to them, at any rate)


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:55 pm 
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May wrote:
I do believe in ghosts to a certain extent. I believe that there are people who can see them and talk to them, and there are technologies that exist to allow people to witness their existence in some fashion if they're there. I believe that there has to be another species on another planet somewhere in the universe. I don't think we'll ever meet, I don't think aliens have grand plans of taking over earth, and I don't believe that people are abducted by aliens.


ya i live with the ghost of my sister and sometimes we talk but thats it. people think im weird for it when its just a basic belief that can be followed or not. and alien abductions i dont believe in much, but i do believe there is something out there.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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But you were arguing logic...
You said, quite explicitly, that there are so many stories that some of them must be true (Or that there must be some grain of logic to them, at any rate)


Oh my goodness. If you're going to get technical, just ignore what I said, for god's sake.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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I don't believe in any of that supernatural stuff. I can't help but sort of believe in psychic traces, as in I don't think people can actually read minds or see the future, but sometimes people have a slight psychic bond, where they end up thinking the same thing a lot, and it's too often or too obscure for it to be a coincidence, even when they're two people who've known each other a while. And there can be such a thing as catching very tiny glimpses of the future, usually not really knowing what they are until it happens. Same with picking up tiny bits of people's thoughts on rare occasions. I dunno, that's my take. It's not that I really think it's possible, it's just that I feel like it is, and can't convince myself otherwise.

As for aliens, of course I believe in people from other countries! I'm not your typical US egotist, after all...as for extraterrestrial life, I do believe in it. I really don't think there's anything on Mars or whatever. But waaay out there, somewhere, I think there's life, quite possibly more civilized and/or advanced than our own planetary society. The Earth is livable only by a series of huge coincidences. In the infinite universe, it's not impossible for the same things to happen, maybe +/- a few unimportant details, and even less impossible for a different set of coincidences to result in life. It seems very, very improbable to me, and if the universe weren't as unfathomably enormous as it is, I'd definitely reject the idea as too improbable to believe.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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If you want a wonderful book on the matter of Metaphysics then read this:

Do Dead People Watch Me In The Shower: And Others Questions People Ask Mediums (I think thats the title) By Concetta Bertoldi.

She's a very funny medium with a very wonderful talent. It really helped me feel at ease about hauntings and death.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:02 pm 
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Rissa wrote:
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But you were arguing logic...
You said, quite explicitly, that there are so many stories that some of them must be true (Or that there must be some grain of logic to them, at any rate)


Oh my goodness. If you're going to get technical, just ignore what I said, for god's sake.



What you mean is "If you are going to take what I say at face value due to psychological conditions, then I'll stop misusing words so blatantly" I think.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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well i believe in ghosts and aliens, but seeing as I have hallucinations I do question what I see ALOT.
I've had my experiences with ghosts and 'spirits' but when it comes to things like people thinking they've been abducted by aliens, that's when my belief just stops.


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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Asthaloth wrote:
Rissa wrote:
Asthaloth wrote:
But you were arguing logic...
You said, quite explicitly, that there are so many stories that some of them must be true (Or that there must be some grain of logic to them, at any rate)


Oh my goodness. If you're going to get technical, just ignore what I said, for god's sake.



What you mean is "If you are going to take what I say at face value due to psychological conditions, then I'll stop misusing words so blatantly" I think.


I think she means "This is pointless, please drop it". And I'd be inclined to agree. :)


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 Post subject: Re: do you believe in them too?
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i can see them take pictures of them and even get them to do my school work lol :D
but i am serious i can do all that


i know what ghosts are pm me if you want to know


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