WW37 -- Labyrinth of Legends

[Urthdigger]

Vote: Loser
Movement: South
Movement: South

[Chipper]

Vote Loser

Movement: Go forward

Good to see we finally got a baddie.

[averly]

Vote: Loser
Movement: Randomize

Well, the bandwagons haven't been wrong yet - fortunately.

[Miyu]

You do realize that this bandwagon is based on.. nothing. The others had some scrap of something. Even if most people had no idea it was there.

Christopher.. essentially stuck his hand into a hat, and pulled out a colored ball with loser's name on it.
So essentially - this would be like a Day one bandwagon.

[Pickles]

You do realize that this bandwagon is based on.. nothing. The others had some scrap of something. Even if most people had no idea it was there.

Christopher.. essentially stuck his hand into a hat, and pulled out a colored ball with loser's name on it.
So essentially - this would be like a Day one bandwagon.

Uhm. Mongrel started the bandwagon.

I think that should clear it up enough?

[Christopher]

You do realize that this bandwagon is based on.. nothing. The others had some scrap of something. Even if most people had no idea it was there.

Christopher.. essentially stuck his hand into a hat, and pulled out a colored ball with loser's name on it.
So essentially - this would be like a Day one bandwagon.

Uhm. Mongrel started the bandwagon.

I think that should clear it up enough?

Don't forget Mongrel being Cassandra.

Anyway, it's nothing like a day one bandwagon whatsoever.

If I subtract the list of people dreamed innocent along with the abductions and those killed, That leaves only 8 or so names possible for Eyes and Munching. btw, Miyu, you're pretty much name 9, I have nothing on you really.

[Mongrel]

Since I'm sure Miyu will next make the argument that I provided no proof and it could just as easily be a random bandwagon though it came from me....It's not. We have good reason to believe loser is, specifically, the muncher.

[Miyu]

Actually, that isn't what I was going to say next. But nice try. xD

If you have reason to believe that she is the muncher - and obviously it isn't due to a dream result, otherwise you would've just said so. Then why do you believe her to be the muncher?

Mongrel made the first vote against loser. One vote, does not a bandwagon make. She didn't say a reason, what so ever.

Christopher made the second vote. "Loser's on a list of seven-eight names of people that are highly likely to be the baddies."

Every other person who voted for loser - had no reason, no commentary for their vote.
Until Averly, "Well, the bandwagons haven't been wrong yet - fortunately."

The first vote coming from Mongrel - with no comment. No, it does not clear it up. Especially since she doesn't claim dreamership for it.

Care to .... put your heads together, and try again? xD

Yes it is similar to a day one bandwagon vote.
Does anyone know anything about people day one? 99% of the time, no.
So people vote randomly, sometimes a bandwagon forms - sometimes not.
The major difference between a day one bandwagon and this - is number of people in the pool.

I could say the same thing about you Christopher.

[Christopher]

The question is more, why are you always so intent on naysaying the dreamers and confirmed innocents? Why do you vote for them too? I really do have to get you checked out, but we have bigger priorities, namely, the first 7-8 people on the list.

I could say the same thing about you Christopher.

If you did, I'd reply 'You're a nincompoop.' I've been dreamed innocent by at least one dreamer, I have independantly verified my role with another confirmed innocent, I'm not the muncher as I got munched. Unless you think I'm being exceptionally elaborate here...

Btw, 3/8 people under investigation didn't vote for DM yesterday. Team much?

[Mongrel]

Last night, loser targeted Christopher. Christopher was munched. Loser is on a short list of people suspected of being evil.
If you want to know more, prove your innocence, as at the moment you're creeping up the potential baddies list.

[Pixa]

I don't really see how you could assume that people not voting for DM is some kind of indicator that they're on a team. The bandwagon had basically no founding. I'd say the majority of people I see executed because they were disabled end up being innocent.

[Mongrel]

I don't really see how you could assume that people not voting for DM is some kind of indicator that they're on a team. The bandwagon had basically no founding. I'd say the majority of people I see executed because they were disabled end up being innocent.

What?
I'd be fine with Miyu not voting for loser without concrete proof. It's her voting for Christopher, who has been cleared, that looks awfully evil.

[Christopher]

I don't really see how you could assume that people not voting for DM is some kind of indicator that they're on a team. The bandwagon had basically no founding. I'd say the majority of people I see executed because they were disabled end up being innocent.

What?
I'd be fine with Miyu not voting for loser without concrete proof. It's her voting for Christopher, who has been cleared, that looks awfully evil.

It's not evil, just...stupid? An evil player wouldn't deliberately vote for an innocent player like that I would think. Unless it's an elaborate plot. Like my one.

I don't really see how you could assume that people not voting for DM is some kind of indicator that they're on a team. The bandwagon had basically no founding. I'd say the majority of people I see executed because they were disabled end up being innocent.

The bandwagon had founding. Again, at that point one of the (then 9) people I knew nothing about, was disabled in one of the nights there was no munching. Far far better than the useless random voting most of the game. I wasn't right about her being the muncher though.

When it comes down to it, DM was a case of numbers, Loser is a case of near-concrete proof.

[Miyu]

Stupid? I take offense to that. xD
Why should I be a complete wool head, and yay-say everything everyone says?
Doing that, would be stupid.
Time and time again, actually I think it borderlines on ritual. People who are "confirmed" form an "innocent" alliance. Then they get picked off one by one. So really, this whole "grapevine" deal - is a completele hindrance in the long run for the innocents. Especially when ritually - people let the baddies in, and don't care about that aspect.

Sure, you may have been dreamed innocent. But (as far as I remember, given the current time,) word of it didn't appear until after Mongrel returned. Yet, supposedly Pickles had the information... so why wait so long to share it?
Sure, you say you have proved your role to a 'confirmed' innocent. I don't know who this is, I don't know how they were confirmed. I don't have any knowledge of this 'role proving'. So to me - it is just a bunch of hearsay.

I'll give you a penny if I can be shortlisted to the top of that evil list. xD
If you want to know my role, then prove your post-resurrection innocence, Mongrel. As far as I can remember (which granted at the current time, is quite short), no one claimed Jas' resurrection.

[malibu]

There is a distinct lack of other leads, and simply nay-saying every piece of evidence that gets presented gets the innocents no where. I don't think that not disputing every fact that rises is being a wool-head and as such:

Vote: loser
Because being tracked and targeting someone who was attacked seems reason enough. I wouldn't say the proof is near concrete, but it's something.