Missing: Madeline McCann

[littleboy6326]

It's a horrible shame, this whole story. I feel I have to stick up for the parents here.

They were on holiday, the family, and as parents do, they need a bit of time away from their children in order to have a relationship of their own. I think its fair that they didn't want a complete stranger looking after their children, so they didn't take that option. Instead, they stayed close to home so that they could keep an eye on the children. Did the parents run off to some nightclub a few minutes away? Did they come home drunk every time they left their children alone? No. Not at all. They simply went to a restaurant seconds away from where they were staying, and had a clear view of the hotel. They checked on their children every 30 minutes, and weren't out for very long at all, just to eat something and go.

No one expects their child, who they believe is in the safety of a home or a hotel room, to be abducted or taken away. That family were a target, and Madeleine was taken purely by someone who had planned it. And I can honestly see why, shes a beautiful little girl. But I don't believe the parents made a mistake in what they did. Parents leave their children at home alone every day, simply because they believe that their children are sensible and safe and wont open the doors to any strangers.

However, this case just shows that even home isn't safe for children anymore. Gods know why she was taken from her hotel room, and her other siblings were left alone. I just hope shes found safely.

The information you have obtained-- I assume it was taken from the media?
We have no idea what the parents were really doing... The media likes to distort things to try and make you feel sorry for them.

[Bangel]

It's a horrible shame, this whole story. I feel I have to stick up for the parents here.

They were on holiday, the family, and as parents do, they need a bit of time away from their children in order to have a relationship of their own. I think its fair that they didn't want a complete stranger looking after their children, so they didn't take that option. Instead, they stayed close to home so that they could keep an eye on the children. Did the parents run off to some nightclub a few minutes away? Did they come home drunk every time they left their children alone? No. Not at all. They simply went to a restaurant seconds away from where they were staying, and had a clear view of the hotel. They checked on their children every 30 minutes, and weren't out for very long at all, just to eat something and go.

No one expects their child, who they believe is in the safety of a home or a hotel room, to be abducted or taken away. That family were a target, and Madeleine was taken purely by someone who had planned it. And I can honestly see why, shes a beautiful little girl. But I don't believe the parents made a mistake in what they did. Parents leave their children at home alone every day, simply because they believe that their children are sensible and safe and wont open the doors to any strangers.

However, this case just shows that even home isn't safe for children anymore. Gods know why she was taken from her hotel room, and her other siblings were left alone. I just hope shes found safely.

The information you have obtained-- I assume it was taken from the media?
We have no idea what the parents were really doing... The media likes to distort things to try and make you feel sorry for them.

Actually, I spent all of yesterday reading about this (I heard about it in a Myspace bulletin, as it's not really on our news yet), and that's exactly what happened. The media may be distorted, but I have enough optimism in me to believe that even if some sources do that, not everyone is out to trick us (and I read several articles on it, and I sincerely hope that at least one of them were telling the truth, because all of them said pretty much the same thing). I actually read a lot of different theories about it, too. Neighbors/friends said it was extremely out of character for the parents to leave their children alone. However, the family was going out with a group of friends- they were not by themselves. A common theory is that the rest of their friends left their children at the hotel, which had a reputation for safety, and so the parents believed it would be safe for their children as well. And, as Ayse said, they did check on Madeleine and her two siblings every half hour/every hour (news reports I've read vary on just how often they checked, but it is known they checked). Assuming the parents are not involved, which there is really no evidence towards, it would have to be very likely that whoever took her must have been keeping tabs on the family for at least that entire day- they knew the parents would be out, they knew the parents' schedule for checking, and if they didn't know these things, there's a huge chance they would have been caught. The McCanns were, from as far as any actual evidence and real people who actually knew them and their daughter, excellent parents that made a mistake. It happens. And this time, it actually and on an extreme level did happen. They were irresponsible, but not to the extent that I believe they should be damned by the many people that are blaming them for everything. I mean, come on, the abductor should have some blame, too.

If you want to read more about this, you can just google her name and a whole bunch of articles come up.

[littleboy6326]

I did that.

However, I won't believe a word the media says, until the case is closed. When something like this reaches the media, you need to take everything they say with a pinch of salt.

Leaving a four year old alone, even in a hotel known for it's safety, is a stupid idea.

[Harmonize]

I did that.

However, I won't believe a word the media says, until the case is closed. When something like this reaches the media, you need to take everything they say with a pinch of salt.

Leaving a four year old alone, even in a hotel known for it's safety, is a stupid idea.

And do you honestly think after the case is closed, the media will still provide us with a truthful story of the event? Thats naive to believe, no story is ever 100% truthful when the media tells it. But saying that, the information I read was information I chose to believe, because it seems highly unlikely that these people weren't sensible parents who really did care for their children. I hardly doubt the media would change their story, just to make them look good and for us "to feel sorry for them" like you said, they're just telling the distressing story of a family who have lost a child they love.

I don't understand why you are so determined to make these parents seem like they're idiots and they don't know how to handle children. I honestly think its unfair for anyone without children to understand the pain these people are going through, and its unfair of you to sit here and criticizing their parenting while they're going through a horrible time in their life. Shame on you, really, shame on you.

[littleboy6326]

I did that.

However, I won't believe a word the media says, until the case is closed. When something like this reaches the media, you need to take everything they say with a pinch of salt.

Leaving a four year old alone, even in a hotel known for it's safety, is a stupid idea.

And do you honestly think after the case is closed, the media will still provide us with a truthful story of the event? Thats naive to believe, no story is ever 100% truthful when the media tells it. But saying that, the information I read was information I chose to believe, because it seems highly unlikely that these people weren't sensible parents who really did care for their children. I hardly doubt the media would change their story, just to make them look good and for us "to feel sorry for them" like you said, they're just telling the distressing story of a family who have lost a child they love.

I don't understand why you are so determined to make these parents seem like they're idiots and they don't know how to handle children. I honestly think its unfair for anyone without children to understand the pain these people are going through, and its unfair of you to sit here and criticizing their parenting while they're going through a horrible time in their life. Shame on you, really, shame on you.

No, but the police reports (if they chose to release them) would do. The media gives us a rough idea, and at the moment, it's in the sympathy phase. Next comes the criticism stage, and it goes on like that. That's how it works with the media.

Well, who in their right mind would leave a four year old alone in a hotel room, regardless whether it's safe or not? What if they woke up after having a nightmare? What if they found some 'colourful liquid' underneath the kitchen sink? It's irresponsable, and if if they child is not dead, they deserve to have her taken away and put into care.

I don't seem why you have a right to try and make me feel bad about what I think about this situation. I can believe what I want, whether I'm right or wrong, it doesn't matter. This isn't a fascist forum, and I don't think think PinkPT Forums is a theocracy, or a dictatorship. Leave me be.

I'm not one for backseat modding, but we were told to stop, so let's give the debates here a rest, yes? Sign up to the debater forum if you want to debate, don't assist in trashing a topic, otherwise it'll probably get a lock, and we both get strikes for ignoring moderator requests.

[Paul]

This isn't a fascist forum, and I don't think think PinkPT Forums is a theocracy, or a dictatorship. Leave me be.

It is, actually, a dictatorship of sorts. You'd be näive to think it wasn't.

[littleboy6326]

This isn't a fascist forum, and I don't think think PinkPT Forums is a theocracy, or a dictatorship. Leave me be.

It is, actually, a dictatorship of sorts. You'd be näive to think it wasn't.

People seem to like that word today.


It's a dictatorship of sorts, yes; but I'm sure we all have rights, and are able to express our opinions, right?

EG: I won't get lined up and shot if I said: "PinkPT, your game-guides need more work done to them".

[Paul]

This isn't a fascist forum, and I don't think think PinkPT Forums is a theocracy, or a dictatorship. Leave me be.

It is, actually, a dictatorship of sorts. You'd be näive to think it wasn't.

People seem to like that word today.


It's a dictatorship of sorts, yes; but I'm sure we all have rights, and are able to express our opinions, right?

EG: I won't get lined up and shot if I said: "PinkPT, your game-guides need more work done to them".

That's a fascist regime. PPT is a dictatoship, where the administrators hold absolute power over all, especially since we do not elect them.

[littleboy6326]

This isn't a fascist forum, and I don't think think PinkPT Forums is a theocracy, or a dictatorship. Leave me be.

It is, actually, a dictatorship of sorts. You'd be näive to think it wasn't.

People seem to like that word today.


It's a dictatorship of sorts, yes; but I'm sure we all have rights, and are able to express our opinions, right?

EG: I won't get lined up and shot if I said: "PinkPT, your game-guides need more work done to them".

That's a fascist regime. PPT is a dictatoship, where the administrators hold absolute power over all, especially since we do not elect them.

Eh, my bad. I meant the former. I get dictatorship and fascist regimes confused sometimes.

Anyway. I'm going to stop debating the whole PinkPT what-kind-of-government-is-it stuff, and try and get back on topic.

[Ski]

Well, who in their right mind would leave a four year old alone in a hotel room, regardless whether it's safe or not?

Not to mention, in a country other than your own. I can't say they deserved it or that they're morons for doing so, but the action itself was enormously stupid, and I'm not surprised something happened because of it.

[littleboy6326]

Well, who in their right mind would leave a four year old alone in a hotel room, regardless whether it's safe or not?

Not to mention, in a country other than your own. I can't say they deserved it or that they're morons for doing so, but the action itself was enormously stupid, and I'm not surprised something happened because of it.

In my opinion, they deserved it, and they're morons for leaving the poor girl there on her own.

The girl, however, didn't deserve anything like this to happen. She shouldn't have to pay for her parents mistakes or suffer the consequences of her parent's irresponability.

If anyone remembers all the other cases like this, it's just the media trying to make a quick buck out of a sob story. This kind of stuff happens all the time. I don't see why Madeline get's special attention, however.

If the media wants a real depressing story, they should say something about the child brothels in Thailand. That's depressing, and it's on a much larger scale than one girl going missing.

It's not that I don't care about this poor girl, but the media is giving it way too much attention....

[Asthaloth]

I did that.

However, I won't believe a word the media says, until the case is closed. When something like this reaches the media, you need to take everything they say with a pinch of salt.

Leaving a four year old alone, even in a hotel known for it's safety, is a stupid idea.

*Hugs you*


I would also like to point out that Fascism is the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and that the word has become corrupt in the last couple decades.

That is all.

Theres a 2.5 million pound reward.
There's almost no chance she's going to be found if that kind of money doesn't bring witnesses out of the woodworks.

Isn't capitalism grand.

BangelEdit: Posts combined; please do not double post.

[littleboy6326]

Theres a 2.5 million pound reward.
There's almost no chance she's going to be found if that kind of money doesn't bring witnesses out of the woodworks.

Isn't capitalism grand.

You can't be serious? 2.5 Million? Now, as much as I do want this poor girl found, I do think that is a little lame.

I wish my life was worth £2,500,000.


£2,500,000 is around $5,000,000.

[Harmonize]

You can't be serious? 2.5 Million? Now, as much as I do want this poor girl found, I do think that is a little lame.

I wish my life was worth £2,500,000.


£2,500,000 is around $5,000,000.

Because everyone has a billion gazillion pounds lying in their bank, JUST IN CASE someone in their family gets kidnapped.

I think its horrible that they should have to provide an reward at all, people should just give information without expecting large amounts of cash or other rewards in return.

[Asthaloth]

umm... The point was that it's taken 2.5 million pounds for anyone to care enough to look..